Arizona becoming more Texasy than Texas?

Freiwillige · 04-08-10, 07:32 PM

Arizona law makers just stepped once step closer to making concealed firearms legal without a permit. I'm pro gun, pro liberty but I'm not sure how I feel on this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_concealed_weapons_arizona

tater · 04-08-10, 07:43 PM

Legal gun owners aren't going to shoot anyone (other than bad guys) regardless of the CCW status. Criminal will carry concealed regardless of the law, AND kill people.

Doesn't matter, IMO.

Freiwillige · 04-08-10, 07:50 PM

While I agree with you completely on that point Tater the Issue I have is one of gun safety. Getting your CCW means training and gun safety before you are let loose on society.

Many first time gun owners are a bit naive and do not realize the basics of gun safety and gun laws.

Now if you are the average gun owner your gun is at home rarely touched unless your going to the range but now many will be tempted to carry without intimate knowledge of the weapon they poses.

I field strip and clean my firearms once a month even if I have not fired them just to keep all the features in familiarity and make sure its in perfect working order.

Platapus · 04-08-10, 08:03 PM

I kinda want some sort of educational requirement. Most civilians really don't understand the laws concerning self defense.

I think the way Virginia does it works best. Virginia is a "shall issue" state when it comes to CWP. But Virginia does have an educational (barely) requirement.

I am sure the Virginia police appreciate knowing who may be carrying when they roll on a call.

Now if only Virginia can only get rid of the bar/restaurant exclusion

Torvald Von Mansee · 04-08-10, 09:00 PM

I wish MD allowed concealed weapons permits. You can theoretically get a permit, they just won't give you one. So, only the criminals get to carry concealed weapons. Yep, real smart, that.

Bubblehead1980 · 04-08-10, 10:59 PM

I like it, after they complete a gun safety course

Bubblehead1980 · 04-08-10, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

I wish MD allowed concealed weapons permits. You can theoretically get a permit, they just won't give you one. So, only the criminals get to carry concealed weapons. Yep, real smart, that.

Liberals and their Anti-Gun agenda are the reason for that.I always laugh when people from up north move here(Florida) and are amazed at the gun laws here.

04-08-10, 07:32 PM	#1
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Arizona becoming more Texasy than Texas? Arizona law makers just stepped once step closer to making concealed firearms legal without a permit. I'm pro gun, pro liberty but I'm not sure how I feel on this. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_concealed_weapons_arizona

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I kinda want some sort of educational requirement. Most civilians really don't understand the laws concerning self defense. I think the way Virginia does it works best. Virginia is a "shall issue" state when it comes to CWP. But Virginia does have an educational (barely) requirement. I am sure the Virginia police appreciate knowing who may be carrying when they roll on a call. Now if only Virginia can only get rid of the bar/restaurant exclusion __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I wish MD allowed concealed weapons permits. You can theoretically get a permit, they just won't give you one. So, only the criminals get to carry concealed weapons. Yep, real smart, that. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

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tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Legal gun owners aren't going to shoot anyone (other than bad guys) regardless of the CCW status. Criminal will carry concealed regardless of the law, AND kill people. Doesn't matter, IMO.

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Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	While I agree with you completely on that point Tater the Issue I have is one of gun safety. Getting your CCW means training and gun safety before you are let loose on society. Many first time gun owners are a bit naive and do not realize the basics of gun safety and gun laws. Now if you are the average gun owner your gun is at home rarely touched unless your going to the range but now many will be tempted to carry without intimate knowledge of the weapon they poses. I field strip and clean my firearms once a month even if I have not fired them just to keep all the features in familiarity and make sure its in perfect working order.

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Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,121 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	I like it, after they complete a gun safety course