How's the hold out crowd holding up?

[Skiiwa]

Sh4 with mods is still GREAT!. Thank U MOD TEAMS!!!!!
I will never buy this title unless the DRM is removed.
Hell, I may NEVER buy it just on principle
At this moment I will not be buying another Ubi title..

Lord help us all if IL-2(Storm of War) is published by Ubi.


Chris

[Spartan]

Doing just fine. DRM is pure evil and never believe otherwise. The sooner the vexing blight is gone from games the better. Any DRM beyond a basic serial number only harms legit customers.

I have likely saved over $3,000 the past couple years not buying UBI or EA games because of DRM. Additionally, arguably I have saved ten times that amount from not making music purchases either outside of Amazon where I'm at about the $4k mark in music purchases since it stopped using DRM.

[JetSnake]

Haven't bought it. Won't buy it. I read this forum to see if DRM has either been cracked or dealt with via patch. Could be I just don't have the passion for sub games or games in general anymore. Too much bs with this title for me to want to deal with its enormous shortcomings.

[klh]

I've got to admit, I've picked it up and held it a few times at Wal-Mart, but so far I've been able to avoid buying it. Besides the shortcomings and DRM, my PC won't even run it (but I was hoping for an excuse to upgrade ). It will be an expensive game at $1050 ($50 for the game and $1000 for the new PC).

But like others, I keep checking the forums hoping for some good news and a reason to jump in.

[gutted]

Since playing SH5 for a month i tried playing SH3 & 4 last weekend... and i just cant do it.

Yeah SH5 has its problems... but i just cant go back now.

[green_abobo]

i am holding out for both the DRM crap, and mainly because i don't have a dual core processor.

call me old fashioned.

it looks cool though. is it historically correct? how does this run on laptops? does it run on laptops?

[Commie]

Still ignoring SH5. Haven't followed what was going on for months. I hate to appear smug, but it's hardly a surprise to see it having been abandoned by UBI just as the doubters said it would be. I remember them taking a lot of flak from the UBI/DRM lovers for their heresy back in the day, yet it seems that they are the ones with egg on their faces now.

[codmander]

not a penny more than $9.99. current price $19.00 so a ways to go yet maybe drm will be gone by then also sh3 still rocks.....untill

[Wulfmann]

As I have said this is easy for me. My Game PC is not online. I can not play SH5 unless they release a version that does not require being online.

That said recent comments on manner of play also concern me.

HuntertzehnGustav and I have banged heads but we both have a high expectation of accuracy and realism and I respect his position. If he says it has serious play problems than I have to listen up so maybe even with DRM removed I have to reconsider if I will buy it..

I am looking forward to Oleg's BoB a subject I have had much experience in with CFS3.
Bob, did you ever load ETO in CFS3? If so there is an updated BoB for it.

I put my Uboat in the shipyards and sent the crew on leave in early 1943 in my present SH# GWX3 campaign. I bought the entire Battlestar Galactica on DVD and have been watching that till I get a longing for the smell of the ocean again.

Wulfmann

[jdkbph]

It is silly.

It's a novelty that wears off in about 10 minutes. Beyond that you start to realize just how stupid the idea of a "captain simulator" really is. The main problem is that the AI and orders interface that substitute, or should substitute for "team members" in such a simulator is, respectively, incompetent and messy. It's more work and frustration getting them to do what you need done than it is to just F-key your way to the station and do it yourself. I would argue that doing it yourself is more satisfying as well.

Another example of 1st person silliness is the diving procedure.

Old way: Hit P for periscope depth and the boat begins to dive. In my mind I've hit the alarm waited for my bridge watch to clear and then jumped down the hatch dogging it behind me as the boat goes under.

New way: fish around for WASD (or mod substituted) keys - which I hate using even in real FPS games - get lined up just so on the hatch, clank clank clank your way down into the sub (leaving the watch crew up on deck!), THEN push the p key to start the diving procedure. The watch crew at some point teleports into the boat. I've seen them go under water before that happens.

Immersive? It's not doing anything for me...

JD

[frau kaleun]

Er... wasn't it standard practice for the highest ranking person present on the bridge to be the LAST one down the hatch if a dive was ordered?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by jdkbph

Old way: Hit P for periscope depth and the boat begins to dive. In my mind I've hit the alarm waited for my bridge watch to clear and then jumped down the hatch dogging it behind me as the boat goes under.

I always hit the key and then instantly right-click to the conning tower. With DBSM I hear the crew shouting orders as they race to their stations. When I hear the hatch close I right-click again to the control room, usually just in time to see them appear in their seats (DD's Open Hatch mod). I only wish the earlier games had SH5's seated helmsman as well.

In SH3 in an external view the watch disappear immediately when you hit any dive key, as they should. In SH4 they stay on the bridge until the boat actually begins to sink. How come with each game the behaviour becomes less realistic?

[Hanomag]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I completely agree: walking around the boat looks like fun while not in combat. In combat, I as the captain should be in the control room or conning tower, or on the bridge, giving orders directly, through speaking tubes or through messengers.

The way they apparently have it set up now seems silly - assuming the reports I'm reading are accurate and not that some people are just not understanding how to work it properly.

I AM WIT CHOO...!!!
Overall I am not impressed with what I have read so far...

[Cavell]

Originally Posted by Boats

But as a former sailor I'm really interested in the ability to inspection my boat from stem to stern. Not being able to get past certain bulkheads was OK in the past, but development has come a long way. When I drove boats as a coxswain there wasn't any compartment off limits to me, even the snipes' hideaway. So to me the whole boat would make the game all the more immersive.

But DRM.

Oh, I'm sure it's certainly more immersive. However, I'm sure it also gets quite old having to run the length of the ship to get certain things done, if that is in fact the case.

You should absolutely do what you want. If you're opposed to the DRM, stick to your guns. Ubi's hoping you don't. If you're not that opposed and want to play, then buy the game.

If you stick it out, you'll be able to wait until the price drops, there have been some patches released, and the mods have been polished to a brilliant shine. If you don't, you'll get to play it right away and have your curiosity sated. Up to you.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Hate everything i see, hear and click.


major screwup.

First mission, invasion of poland, straight to battle.
aha. how do i get up the ladder?
UGH, FPS Style, just run against it and keep bangin yer head against the tubes. It ll get you up on the deck.

fast forward... message: sink a polish trio.
instructions: point your periscope, launch the eels.
no control over the boat whatsoever...
draw course, follow it, get back to last course... took me 30 minutes to find out.
Menues activate step by step... wtf... i have to be guided like a fekkin first time player, instructions are poor to nonexistant, how to move crews around can not be done at all so far...
getting back to kiel...wanna enter da subpen... get my nose stuck in the "damage Box" of the subpen...
entering a subpen is not what you are sposed to do.
gotta click an anchor icon. aha.

*Throws a VERY large trout at those who decided to go FPS style with this*
*Throws a slightly less small trout at those who did not stop this madness*

Never. never in my entire life can you sell me such a piesse of scheisse. Eyes wide open, i am shocked.
even vanilla SHIII was more intuitive than this.

and all the rest of the complaints are true: cannot dive with crew on deck, no appearent way to move the crew (management icon is not doing anything, in order to dive, as i said before, you sit in this VII/a like a Noob, trying to figure out WHAT the hell you are supposed to do with no indications on HOW to do it?

and only Half the Keyboard controls of the SHIII boats, roughly.

Absolutely disgusted.
Fire the entire team. the e.n.t.i.r.e team
Past achievements dont guarantee future successes.