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Old 02-26-10, 09:14 AM   #16
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Surprise, surprise...
Gestapo is never far away from Kriegsmarine!

So Neal, I'm afraid you're the next one...
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Old 02-26-10, 09:44 AM   #17
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I would not use the Terrm "Gestapo" that easily.

Gestapo was not simply delete posts out of a message board - Gestapo was kill men, women and even childs.... so lets use this term in respect of their victims....


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Old 02-26-10, 09:48 AM   #18
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Lets not get to sensitive
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Old 02-26-10, 09:56 AM   #19
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I was never registered to the german SH Ubi forum, but read in it on occasion.
Really though what happenes there with deleting threads by the mods.
Its a shame that such a good franchise like Silent Hunter gets so many negative publicity because of Ubis OSP/DRM.

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Old 02-26-10, 10:02 AM   #20
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Old 02-26-10, 10:26 AM   #21
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This is very interesting. Last night I was on the Official Ubisoft site for Silent Hunter 5 and noticed the biggest thread on the site was people expressing their dislike of the new DRM. It had close to 400 posts and was roughly twice the size of the next largest thread.
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Old 02-26-10, 11:02 AM   #22
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hmm I can understand UBI a little bit. Not in a whole but a little. The posters exaggerated to much in posts against DRM. In both, quality and quantity. Not to mention the behavior between some members among each other.
On the other hand it is not very clever to close threads and clean up the forum in a cloak and dagger operation without warning the members that are affected (wich they hadn't as far as i can see). I mean you can't manage a forum like this. No wounder people don't like that method and blame you for it.
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Old 02-26-10, 11:29 AM   #23
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Perhaps the people who wanted to talk about the game (ie their customers) were getting constantly shouted down by people who aren't buying the game (ie not their customers).
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Old 02-26-10, 11:44 AM   #24
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I would not use the Terrm "Gestapo" that easily.

Gestapo was not simply delete posts out of a message board - Gestapo was kill men, women and even childs.... so lets use this term in respect of their victims....


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Oh really ? Who would say that... ?
And Kriegsmarine was shooting virtual convoys scripted by Ubisoft ?

If You don't understand symbolism of this forum's "vocabulary" - you can join Tom&Jerry cartoons forum... it's all straight and fair.
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Old 02-26-10, 11:45 AM   #25
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I'm not going to look for any excuses for Ubisoft.

They did a Bonehead move and their Offical website speaks for itself.

Predicting their sale loss is, like predicting the Lottery numbers.

Only time will tell.

I have no doubts that other game publishers are watching this closely.
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Old 02-26-10, 11:51 AM   #26
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Perhaps the people who wanted to talk about the game (ie their customers) were getting constantly shouted down by people who aren't buying the game (ie not their customers).
From what i´ve seen most flak was aimed at the company, to include moderators. While the anger is understandable from my perspective, i wouldn't be as thick as to create an account on corp. forums, deploy the flamethrower, and expect to come back later for another session. Some people were seemingly not operating with a full deck. Of the posts locked/deleted - some were ill-presented, not all. Voicing legit concerns, shouldn't be met by silence, or some witty remark by a forum mod. It contributed to escalating things over there.
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Old 02-26-10, 11:53 AM   #27
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That's why 3rd person organizations like subsim are great
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Old 02-26-10, 11:59 AM   #28
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...dont take it too personal Adriatico... !!!

but Gestapo shoot civiliance and poeple who resist....Kriegsmarine shoot at ships that (even later in the war) was escorted and sometimes equipped with one or to cannons....

Gestapo really was the lowest level that menkind can become...

Maybe I too sensitives because my Grandpa was go to Gestapo-jail and never was seen again, but this is another story...

...it was just a generally public remeinder.... , ok?


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Old 02-26-10, 12:38 PM   #29
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Gestapo really was the lowest level that menkind can become...
I agree absolutely - and offer my deepest condolences for the tragic loss of your grandfather - but please remember still that it's common parlance to use expressions like "language nazi" when referring to someone who's a stickler for grammar. A tad unthoughtful, yes, but there's precious little one can really do even then...

Sorry for the digression guys, please carry on
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Old 02-26-10, 12:39 PM   #30
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I'll say this again here since I don't see anyone mentioning the fact that Ubisoft is not the only company using this new "constant online connection" approach. Take Two (parent of 2K Games) is also using it and they are catching it from every direction, too.
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