Slightly worrying article

[Nordmann]

I simply loved Ubi's statement, especially the last line.

"our goal is to deliver the best gaming experience to our customers, anywhere, anytime."

Anywhere and anytime, as long as you have a net connection.

[TDK1044]

If "Piracy" is a slang term for copyright infringement, the unlawful reproduction of the work of another, often for the purpose of re-distribution and profit.......

How is paying $50 for a game, not reproducing or copying it in any shape or form, but instead defeating inappropriate software restrictions designed to force you to play it online instead of on your own computer....how is that piracy?

I do NOT want to open a discussion here on a subject that will get members banned, but I feel that the term Piracy is cast with too wide a net sometimes.

[Heretic]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

If "Piracy" is a slang term for copyright infringement, the unlawful reproduction of the work of another, often for the purpose of re-distribution and profit.......

How is paying $50 for a game, not reproducing or copying it in any shape or form, but instead defeating inappropriate software restrictions designed to force you to play it online instead of on your own computer....how is that piracy?

I would think the ones sharing the games are guilty of copyright infringement. The ones downloading are guilty of theft, morally if not legally. Your example probably falls under the EULA somehow. It's certainly not theft or copyright infringement, so not piracy.

*edit* and we're probably not allowed to talk about it, in any case.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Heretic

I would think the ones sharing the games are guilty of copyright infringement. The ones downloading are guilty of theft, morally if not legally. Your example probably falls under the EULA somehow. It's certainly not theft or copyright infringement, so not piracy.

*edit* and we're probably not allowed to talk about it, in any case.

Excellent post, Heretic.

[GREY WOLF 3]

and reported that the games aren't at all friendly towards gamers with shoddy internet connections. "If you get disconnected while playing, you're booted out of the game. All your progress since the last checkpoint or savegame is lost, and your only options are to quit to Windows or wait until you're reconnected," the site reported.

"If you get disconnected while playing, you're booted out of the game I will definitely buy it NOW like sh*t

[Heretic]

Here's confirmation the DRM implementation is not same in each game.

If my internet connection goes down during play, will I lose my progress?
That depends on the way the systems have been implemented. The two examples we have now, Assassin's Creed 2 and Settlers VII, show differing implementations. In Assassin's Creed, if your connection cuts out, you'll be taken back to the last checkpoint. "With Settlers, your game will resume exactly where you left off," says Ubisoft's spokesperson.

from: http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=235596

Other than that , nothing really new. Same old PR swill we've all seen before.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Heretic

Here's confirmation the DRM implementation is not same in each game.



from: http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=235596

Other than that , nothing really new. Same old PR swill we've all seen before.

Great news, potentially. Thanks for sharing. BTW I think you should make a new thread for that.

[Nisgeis]

Here's hoping the game autosaves regularly, as you won't be able to save when your connection drops.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Here's hoping the game autosaves regularly, as you won't be able to save when your connection drops.

Do we know that for sure? We know the game saves locally as well as to the server. In fact the whole "save to server" thing is optional IIRC. But the question remains as to whether local saves are possible while disconnected.

[Seafireliv]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Here's hoping the game autosaves regularly, as you won't be able to save when your connection drops.

For a game like SH5 where you`re patrolling for hours on end, it would need to autosave to their server at least every 5 minutes. Ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Nordmann

I simply loved Ubi's statement, especially the last line.



Anywhere and anytime, as long as you have a net connection.

Exactly and how can a person`s gaming experience be enjoyable under these circumstances? The whole shenanigins puts me off just thinking about it. Games should not stress a person out with such restraints.

Not buying. I don`t care how much UBI don`t care.

Games i like i buy, and l buy a lot of them!
Games i like i buy for the stability and for the manual.
Games i will try i download from warez- sites ,closed ones
And i like simulators-games,
I buy the DCS Black shark
First the ruskie version, then the English download version
Then the Dvd- version .then the manual from russia( in english)
I will buy the next one FC 2.0 and later on the A-10C
And i will buy the Silent hunter 5, And i dont like the DRM
I have pre-order it
So i download a lot of games from pirate sites that i havent buy if i have a chanse i just try them. And i think it*s a lot of people like me, we just try out the games!
I hope i dont get banned for this post now!
Sorry for my poor english, whorse than a 7 years child i know
English is int my first La....... Swedish is.

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Do we know that for sure? We know the game saves locally as well as to the server. In fact the whole "save to server" thing is optional IIRC. But the question remains as to whether local saves are possible while disconnected.

Nothing's certain and it's hard to tell what they currently have, the quote that Heretic posted was quite woolly and unclear. It says that if your AC2 connection drops, you will continue from the last checkpoint - so that either means if your connection drops, then when the game resumes from paused mode, you will be back at the last checkpoint having lost all progress since the checkpoint, even though your PC hasn't been turned off. Or it means that if you lose your net connection and quit out, you will resume from the last check-point, which makes more sense if you quit the game for the last checkpoint (autosave) to be the resume point.

For Settlers 7, it says "With Settlers, your game will resume exactly where you left off,". It sounds very strange for AC2 to kill your progress, if Settlers 7 is able to carry on regardless. But anyway, it only says resume, which could mean resume from net loss and not shutting the game down, or it could mean shutting the game down and later starting the game up again. It doesn't seem quite strange if Settlers 7 is able to save your game state anytime, that AC2 doesn't. It doesn't make a lot of sense to kill progress just for a blip in your connection.

So, that's two ways they have implemented it, so either we'll lose all progress since last save, or lose nothing at all. Hard to say. If it's the former I hope it autosaves . I hope it's the latter though, where we'll not lose progress, but simply be unable to carry on. Well, I don't hope for that, but that's the lesser of two weevils.

I think I read that the save feature saves both locally and on the server, but you have to be online and verified to save. I can't remember where I saw that, if I did, as it's lost in the depths of the gawd-awful DRM thread. I haven't read the results of Neal's six minute test yet.

[scrapser]

Ubisoft is not the only company taking this approach...Take Two is including it in Bioshock 2. I really hope it blows up in their faces big time. I've been gaming for 25 years and this new DRM crap is about as smart as playing horseshoes in a minefield.

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by petherf

Games i like i buy, and l buy a lot of them!
Games i like i buy for the stability and for the manual.
Games i will try i download from warez- sites ,closed ones
And i like simulators-games,
I buy the DCS Black shark
First the ruskie version, then the English download version
Then the Dvd- version .then the manual from russia( in english)
I will buy the next one FC 2.0 and later on the A-10C
And i will buy the Silent hunter 5, And i dont like the DRM
I have pre-order it
So i download a lot of games from pirate sites that i havent buy if i have a chanse i just try them. And i think it*s a lot of people like me, we just try out the games!
I hope i dont get banned for this post now!
Sorry for my poor english, whorse than a 7 years child i know
English is int my first La....... Swedish is.

Well, judging from his Avatar, I think he just did!

NEVER admit to anything like that on this site!

Better still, don't do it!

As for the DRM, I'm more concerned with the impact on my phone bill if I buy SH5.

I'm not made of money!

Mike.

[Kapitanleutnant]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.

So the "benefits" are exactly the same as the standard for every single PC game that was released since the PC was invented up until around 2005.
It seems we've taken a step backward somewhere along the line.