Type VII..... - Page 2

MGR1 · 02-16-10, 05:35 PM

Nah, give me Erich Topp!

or Kretschmer.

or Prien.

or......

Mike.

frau kaleun · 02-16-10, 05:37 PM

Lol, SH3 Commander gave me Otto Kretschmer for a bootsmann once.

Seemed like a nice chap, although I can't say I got to know him very well. He didn't talk much.

Hartmann · 02-16-10, 06:26 PM

VII was a good submarine but lack of firepower, range, and endurance.

Also there was a decisive difference compared with U.S submarines, Radar

, they can know the position heading and range of enemy planes making the things a lot easier .

to sum up german submarines were good in hardware while us submarines were very good in electronics and enough good in hardware ,24 torpedos in iternal reloads is a big difference

frau kaleun · 02-16-10, 06:32 PM

Oh, please. Don't let's muddy the water with facts.

Sailor Steve · 02-16-10, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

He didn't talk much.

I'm trying so hard to think of a witty comeback that still wouldn't be too obvious, and it's just not happening.

Sledgehammer427 · 02-16-10, 09:24 PM

Quote:

I'm trying so hard to think of a witty comeback that still wouldn't be too obvious, and it's just not happening.

you guys are too much

Heretic · 02-16-10, 09:25 PM

The Type VII is the archetype. It wasn't the best performer but if you had to pick one sub to represent "submarine warfare in WWII" , you'd be hard pressed to pick a more representative one.

Sailor Steve · 02-16-10, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heretic

The Type VII is the archetype. It wasn't the best performer but if you had to pick one sub to represent "submarine warfare in WWII" , you'd be hard pressed to pick a more representative one.

That, I can completely agree with.

frau kaleun · 02-16-10, 09:31 PM

cappy70 · 02-16-10, 11:27 PM

What did I do? This posting took "off"

.....(just came back to board a little while back)

I just was so surprised myself to see this VII be #1 on the list over all these subs,( I do know these technical "facts" from History/Military channel stand for different "views"

approach, like calling Luftwaffe mighty) , but I think it was more the intimidation factor at that point in time, than any aspects of judgement on the sub per si as a technical wunder vs. all these other subs.

Jimbuna · 02-17-10, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Heretic

The Type VII is the archetype. It wasn't the best performer but if you had to pick one sub to represent "submarine warfare in WWII" , you'd be hard pressed to pick a more representative one.

....and for that reason it is also the most recogniseable (not taking into account different variants of course).

frau kaleun · 02-17-10, 08:46 AM

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but I think it was more the intimidation factor at that point in time

Bingo.

pythos · 02-18-10, 12:39 AM

If Donitz had had the number of boats he wanted, the war would have taken a much different course. You all do know there was only 40 operational U boats during the "happy times". Think about if there was the 300 or so Donitz had wanted.

The type VII is the representation of what the submarine was capable of when it came to destroying the enemies ability to fight. The allied version of this is definitely the Gato class. The American fleet boats were instrumental in grinding Japan's making ability to a near halt.

When someone says "submarine" it is indeed the type VII that pops in my mind, followed closely by the Gato. Never does the modern Nuclear boat initially pop in my mind, it is always the older Diesel electric numbers.

02-16-10, 05:35 PM	#16
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 980 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Nah, give me Erich Topp! or Kretschmer. or Prien. or...... Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

02-16-10, 06:26 PM	#18
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	VII was a good submarine but lack of firepower, range, and endurance. Also there was a decisive difference compared with U.S submarines, Radar , they can know the position heading and range of enemy planes making the things a lot easier . to sum up german submarines were good in hardware while us submarines were very good in electronics and enough good in hardware ,24 torpedos in iternal reloads is a big difference __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

02-16-10, 09:25 PM	#22
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	The Type VII is the archetype. It wasn't the best performer but if you had to pick one sub to represent "submarine warfare in WWII" , you'd be hard pressed to pick a more representative one. __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information

02-16-10, 11:27 PM	#25
cappy70 Ensign Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA/Florida/Sweden Posts: 234 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Wow What did I do? This posting took "off".....(just came back to board a little while back) I just was so surprised myself to see this VII be #1 on the list over all these subs,( I do know these technical "facts" from History/Military channel stand for different "views" approach, like calling Luftwaffe mighty) , but I think it was more the intimidation factor at that point in time, than any aspects of judgement on the sub per si as a technical wunder vs. all these other subs. __________________ Specs Windows 10 64 bit Pro Asus Z - 97A Intel I7-4790K 4 Ghz 16 Gig Trident Claw DDR 3 2 x 760 GTX 2048 mem in SLI. WD 1T Hd Ultra/WD Black 640 Corsair 850W PSU

02-16-10, 05:37 PM	#17
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Lol, SH3 Commander gave me Otto Kretschmer for a bootsmann once. Seemed like a nice chap, although I can't say I got to know him very well. He didn't talk much.

02-16-10, 06:32 PM	#19
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Oh, please. Don't let's muddy the water with facts.

02-16-10, 09:31 PM	#24
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0

02-18-10, 12:39 AM	#28
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	If Donitz had had the number of boats he wanted, the war would have taken a much different course. You all do know there was only 40 operational U boats during the "happy times". Think about if there was the 300 or so Donitz had wanted. The type VII is the representation of what the submarine was capable of when it came to destroying the enemies ability to fight. The allied version of this is definitely the Gato class. The American fleet boats were instrumental in grinding Japan's making ability to a near halt. When someone says "submarine" it is indeed the type VII that pops in my mind, followed closely by the Gato. Never does the modern Nuclear boat initially pop in my mind, it is always the older Diesel electric numbers.