SHV, Your Intentions 3 Weeks Before Release - Page 2

Platapus · 02-11-10, 11:10 AM

DRM is a minor annoyance I could tolerate if I had to.

I am still concerned with the lack of information concerning game play or actual simulation of submarine operations.

Glitzy graphic eye-candy is all I am seeing being released by Ubi. Nothing on manual targeting, plotting.

I could live with the DRM, limited boats, limited career, limited campaigns as long as I get, in return, a better more enjoyable simulator of submarine operations.

Since I can only base my impressions on what Ubi chooses to release, I fear that all I am getting with SH5 is less

Less boats
Less career durations
Less campaigns
Less simulation
Less ...

And in return all I seem to get is glitzy graphic eye-candy and a cook pushing soup.

I am not getting the impression that Ubi is marketing SH5 for players like me.

janh · 02-11-10, 11:28 AM

The information presented is still very insufficient and, especially since it is so close to the planned release date it is a suspiciously similar situation to the premature buggy releases of SHIII and SHIV... I hope they this time don't care about their stock prices only, but about providing customers with an error free quality product.

I want to know whether we'll definitely get the 43-45 years and the missing subs in a SINGLE addon for a reasonable price as I consider this ought to have been part of this product already (if it shouldn't be seen as a step back from SHIII). Further, I am worried that the RPG elements and walking in the sub can't be turned off and end up being unnecessary micromanagement distracting from the simulation part itself. I have seen real subs from inside, and I'll watch a documentary or read to book to see the internals with all detail. I want to simulate subwarfare here, not hitting my head on a bulkhead.
Lastly, but equally important: I want to see how the campaign missions link together. Is it a continuous dynamic campaign, or a set of linked subcampaigns (within which you have the freedom to operate in that theater at will, but not say "leave the mediteranean to join the hunt at the coast of Africa at will)? I'd like to be able to change my AO if I wish (though the BdU might get my ass on a silver tablet doing so). I want to be sure it is not a scripted set of campaigns linked together within which you just have a couple of missions in each theater, but the freedom that you had in SHIII.

Oh, finally: With the DRM issue as is, it is still an unconditional NO to buying, so that needs to be reversed too before I'd consider SHV a significant step forward over SHIII.

danurve · 02-11-10, 11:35 AM

Same - less inclined.
I'm more inclined to wait and hope there will be an off line option. Which pisses me off till no end because here I thought I could get into the game from the get go and see it .. bahh what's the use in explaining.
And now I see more and more players here seemingly willing to cave in because of the eyecandy. No, Ubisoft didn't see that comming.
My honest thoughts on that would probably get me banned but the point is I will not support this genre - series if it has DRM. Which also means I won't purchase the game to help support this site and that is depressing enough to not want to even play SH3 anymore. Somewhat of a butterfly effect.

Adriatico · 02-11-10, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frenema

You should have separated the 'same' option to either a yes or no.

NO with DRM.
One day...if offline, maybe.

mookiemookie · 02-11-10, 12:33 PM

Buying it day one so I can have every right to criticize and/or praise the game.

The Enigma · 02-11-10, 12:36 PM

NO WAY!! I'm not gonna buy it until the chain has been removed!

Schultz · 02-11-10, 12:37 PM

I will buy the collectors edition hehe

Iron Budokan · 02-11-10, 12:44 PM

My mind hasn't been changed about this game. It will take a lot more than pretty pictures to do that.

Carotio · 02-11-10, 12:44 PM

voted same - less inclined.

When the DRM is removed, which could be in 9 months to a year after release or maybe even later... Then I'll reconsider.
If they add the missing types and later-war.... Then I'll reconsider.
If none of the above... Then I'll not reconsider.
If they both remove the DRM and add the missing parts, then I'll definitely buy it, even if the price is 150% instead of 100%.

02-11-10, 12:48 PM

I really do hope there wont be any attempt to do a

SHV, Your Intentions 2 Weeks Before Release

and a

SHV, Your Intentions 1 Week Before Release

threads and polls

meanstreak · 02-11-10, 01:01 PM

I would be inclined to buy it because I have every other one of the SH series however I am soon to change jobs and will be living where I work.
Now I know for a fact that I can hardly get a signal on my mobile phone in the accommodation area because I stayed there for a short while last year and there is no internet provided wireless or otherwise and my mobile broadband USB stick is as much use as a chocolate teapot there.

So my hands are tied... I'm sure as hell not forking out £30 so I can caress the box, look at the cover artwork and read the manual.

Galanti · 02-11-10, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meanstreak

and read the manual.

We can only pray there will be a manual.

Blauritter · 02-11-10, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriatico

NO with DRM.
One day...if offline, maybe.

X2....some fine day

Nisgeis · 02-11-10, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster

I really do hope there wont be any attempt to do a

SHV, Your Intentions 2 Weeks Before Release

and a

SHV, Your Intentions 1 Week Before Release

threads and polls

Unless... there's the accomapnying 'SHV, Did you do what you said, or did you cave in on the day of release.' poll.

Edit: Added the missing word.

utops · 02-11-10, 01:58 PM

Silent Chainter is behind 15m/s wind,fog and rain for me on this days.
Lurker mode enabled for this room and wait for weather change.

View Poll Results: With new info available, what are your leanings compared to two weeks ago?
More inclined to buy	70	26.72%
Less inclined to buy	102	38.93%
Same	83	31.68%
See DRM in more positive light	12	4.58%
See DRM less positive light	54	20.61%
Indiferent to DRM	39	14.89%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 262. You may not vote on this poll

02-11-10, 11:10 AM	#16
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,375 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	DRM is a minor annoyance I could tolerate if I had to. I am still concerned with the lack of information concerning game play or actual simulation of submarine operations. Glitzy graphic eye-candy is all I am seeing being released by Ubi. Nothing on manual targeting, plotting. I could live with the DRM, limited boats, limited career, limited campaigns as long as I get, in return, a better more enjoyable simulator of submarine operations. Since I can only base my impressions on what Ubi chooses to release, I fear that all I am getting with SH5 is less Less boats Less career durations Less campaigns Less simulation Less ... And in return all I seem to get is glitzy graphic eye-candy and a cook pushing soup. I am not getting the impression that Ubi is marketing SH5 for players like me. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-11-10, 11:28 AM	#17
janh Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 349 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	... The information presented is still very insufficient and, especially since it is so close to the planned release date it is a suspiciously similar situation to the premature buggy releases of SHIII and SHIV... I hope they this time don't care about their stock prices only, but about providing customers with an error free quality product. I want to know whether we'll definitely get the 43-45 years and the missing subs in a SINGLE addon for a reasonable price as I consider this ought to have been part of this product already (if it shouldn't be seen as a step back from SHIII). Further, I am worried that the RPG elements and walking in the sub can't be turned off and end up being unnecessary micromanagement distracting from the simulation part itself. I have seen real subs from inside, and I'll watch a documentary or read to book to see the internals with all detail. I want to simulate subwarfare here, not hitting my head on a bulkhead. Lastly, but equally important: I want to see how the campaign missions link together. Is it a continuous dynamic campaign, or a set of linked subcampaigns (within which you have the freedom to operate in that theater at will, but not say "leave the mediteranean to join the hunt at the coast of Africa at will)? I'd like to be able to change my AO if I wish (though the BdU might get my ass on a silver tablet doing so). I want to be sure it is not a scripted set of campaigns linked together within which you just have a couple of missions in each theater, but the freedom that you had in SHIII. Oh, finally: With the DRM issue as is, it is still an unconditional NO to buying, so that needs to be reversed too before I'd consider SHV a significant step forward over SHIII.

02-11-10, 11:35 AM	#18
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Same - less inclined. I'm more inclined to wait and hope there will be an off line option. Which pisses me off till no end because here I thought I could get into the game from the get go and see it .. bahh what's the use in explaining. And now I see more and more players here seemingly willing to cave in because of the eyecandy. No, Ubisoft didn't see that comming. My honest thoughts on that would probably get me banned but the point is I will not support this genre - series if it has DRM. Which also means I won't purchase the game to help support this site and that is depressing enough to not want to even play SH3 anymore. Somewhat of a butterfly effect. __________________

02-11-10, 12:33 PM	#20
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Buying it day one so I can have every right to criticize and/or praise the game. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

02-11-10, 12:36 PM	#21
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	NO WAY!! I'm not gonna buy it until the chain has been removed! __________________

02-11-10, 12:37 PM	#22
Schultz Officer Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 237 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I will buy the collectors edition hehe __________________ Old nickname: Infernos http://www.overheat.ro/

02-11-10, 12:44 PM	#23
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	My mind hasn't been changed about this game. It will take a lot more than pretty pictures to do that. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

02-11-10, 12:44 PM	#24
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	voted same - less inclined. When the DRM is removed, which could be in 9 months to a year after release or maybe even later... Then I'll reconsider. If they add the missing types and later-war.... Then I'll reconsider. If none of the above... Then I'll not reconsider. If they both remove the DRM and add the missing parts, then I'll definitely buy it, even if the price is 150% instead of 100%. __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano

02-11-10, 12:48 PM	#25
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I really do hope there wont be any attempt to do a SHV, Your Intentions 2 Weeks Before Release and a SHV, Your Intentions 1 Week Before Release threads and polls

02-11-10, 01:01 PM	#26
meanstreak Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 9 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I would be inclined to buy it because I have every other one of the SH series however I am soon to change jobs and will be living where I work. Now I know for a fact that I can hardly get a signal on my mobile phone in the accommodation area because I stayed there for a short while last year and there is no internet provided wireless or otherwise and my mobile broadband USB stick is as much use as a chocolate teapot there. So my hands are tied... I'm sure as hell not forking out £30 so I can caress the box, look at the cover artwork and read the manual.

02-11-10, 01:58 PM	#30
utops Planesman Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gdańsk,Poland Posts: 197 Downloads: 202 Uploads: 0	Silent Chainter is behind 15m/s wind,fog and rain for me on this days. Lurker mode enabled for this room and wait for weather change.