A Message To All of the Members of this Forum

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by JScones

You know, comments like "SH5 will be the most awesomeness thing ever" don't bother me. Comments like "SH5 will be the worst thing ever in the history of the universe" don't bother me (and I hate hyperbole - all credibility disappears whenever I read such comments). But what does bother me are "Your opinion is wrong and thus you are an idiot because whilst I haven't seen the game I know I am righter than you" comments...regardless of whether the maker of said comments is in the "positive" or "negative" camp.

Next to no-one here has seen the game, so how can anyone judge the game, either way to empower them enough to tell others that their opposing view is wrong?

Fine to opine...but when it comes at the expense of personally ridiculing others (and that includes "STFU and stop whining" comments), I think it's a bit rich.

Hear hear Jaeson. I'm not into making anything up eitehr as there is enough BS to go round already, however I will certainly opine away if there is a lack of concrete material pointing at any facts. This in fact is merely human nature.

[Reece]

It was actually me who said "No rough seas" referring to the snapshots and videos shown of SH5 so far, I haven't seen anyone say that there is none, only the Devs can say that, until it's released!

I am not pesimistic and im always hoping for the best but the Silent Hunter 5 "from its last informations" is total missmatch

it has a 5-6 major errors that cannot be excused or forgoten (like only VII type subs, campaign finish on 1943,)


why they just dont sell their project to ACTIVISION or INFINITY YARDS, OR BLIZZARD ENTERTAINAMENT.....or some company that knows hot to make the perfect game

activision and infinity made the special military FPS and they made it perfect since call of duty 2 in 2005

ubisoft didnt succeded in making the PERFECT u-boat simulation even in 2010 with SH5

i mean the game is comming out in 2010 and it looks like (engine, graphics etc.) it is from 2007

[karamazovnew]

Might I add to the topic of this thread, a huge increase in threads that really say the same thing over and over and over again.

"Hey, what about wolfpacks?! I'd love to see wolfpacks in the game, please comment..." We\ve been doing that since september! Just because we now get a new movie or screenshot every other week, doesn't mean we need to duplicate the entire forum. Can people please do a "Search" before deciding to open a new thread of "Will we play the americans in SH5?!".... We all repeat ourselves from time to time, repeat from time to time (intended) but some are taking it to new extremes

JC, your negativism is legendary, that's why we love you , don't deny yourself that

[JScones]

I was just thinking the same thing, after reading yet another dynamic campaign thread. That blasted Med map is now burned into my brain...spelling errors and all!

[Andrew82]

Originally Posted by John Channing

I've been a member of this forum since 1997, since the very beginning. I started as a poster, moved (briefly) through modding, became a contributor, staff writer and finally a moderator. I have lived through the Fast Attack, 688i, Sub Command, Fleet Command, Dangerous Waters, Sh2, Sh3 and SH4 wars. As heated as the discussions got ( and yes... I was right in the middle there from time to time) the one thing that always struck me was that most of the members here were able to discuss matters with a level of respect for each other and the people who enable our hobby/passion.

Lately that seems to be missing.

So I would like to remind everyone that one of the things that makes this forum popular is the level of maturity and civility that is not common on many other forums. Whether you like a game, like SH5, or not; maybe you're worried about this or that feature, maybe you are unhappy or overjoyed with the way the game is shaping up: discussions here should be reasonable and intelligent. Say what you want, but let's avoid overblown rants and tantrums.

Please keep in this mind when you are discussing issues here.

Thanks

JCC

Good posting!!

This is by far the most mature and respectful forum I've ever been on, and I like it very much!

I have read all the SHV topics but never replied on one, we'll see the game it when it get there, until then don't complain. You can always stay with SHIV or SHIII, you are not obligated too buy SHV and it will certainly not ruin your life if it does not meet all of your expectations. Don't worry, be happy. There's a lot more sh*t going on in the world to worry about...

my 2 cents

[Wolfling04]

Originally Posted by spiksy

why they just dont sell their project to ACTIVISION or INFINITY YARDS, OR BLIZZARD ENTERTAINAMENT.....or some company that knows hot to make the perfect game

activision and infinity made the special military FPS and they made it perfect since call of duty 2 in 2005

ubisoft didnt succeded in making the PERFECT u-boat simulation even in 2010 with SH5

i mean the game is comming out in 2010 and it looks like (engine, graphics etc.) it is from 2007

I am sorry but MW2 is a pile of rubbish IMO, I am a Cod PC Gamer, also a co-leader of a CoD clan, and when IW announced there would be no dedicated server support for the game, I chose to never buy another IW game ever again.

But that aside, I have sat back and watched every post from "what i hate about SH5" and "what I love about SH5", I was not around for the forum post about SH4, Yes the campaign ending in 1943 does $uck, but game makers have a deadline and if they could not finish the 43-45yrs, before the release, then so be it, I KNOW (not officially) but deep down that either 1. Ubi will develop an add-on for the yrs43-45, maybe even type IX and II U-boats 2. We got some he11icious modders around here and if Ubi doesn't release an add-on then our modders will get us our 43-45 and our type IX and II's.

As for the graphics of SH5 they look AMAZING IMO.

I look at it like this, why bad mouth something that hasn't been release yet. People have put a lot of hard work into SH5, a game that does have a very niche market. How do you think your comments make the individuals making the game feel.

I know I wouldn't want to be making something for a very niche market and have people bad mouthing my work. Ok I'm done for now.

"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you"

[Arclight]

Originally Posted by spiksy

I am not pesimistic and im always hoping for the best but the Silent Hunter 5 "from its last informations" is total missmatch

it has a 5-6 major errors that cannot be excused or forgoten (like only VII type subs, campaign finish on 1943,)


why they just dont sell their project to ACTIVISION or INFINITY YARDS, OR BLIZZARD ENTERTAINAMENT.....or some company that knows hot to make the perfect game

activision and infinity made the special military FPS and they made it perfect since call of duty 2 in 2005

ubisoft didnt succeded in making the PERFECT u-boat simulation even in 2010 with SH5

i mean the game is comming out in 2010 and it looks like (engine, graphics etc.) it is from 2007

I don't own a single Activision, IW or Blizzard game. But I do own several Ubi games. Imho your point depends on perspective: what you call perfect, I call half-decent (or even half-assed).

And here I was thinking SH4 looked like a 2007 game.



(feel free to ignore; as far as I know none of those companies ever even attempted to develop a sim, therefore I don't think it's even a fair comparison)

[Safe-Keeper]

I support the OP wholeheartedly. As some of you know, I test and do some scattered mapping work and whatnot for the First Strike mod for 2142, and I know how much hard work and determination goes into a game, or for that matter any art project of this size.

Unfortunately, there's a bad culture, especially on the web, of not recognizing or understanding this effort at all and giving the artists absolutely no respect if they don't perform to par. Shows like Idol have just made this worse, in my eyes.

When you've never lifted a finger to make a mod or game in your life, it's easy to forget how much work goes into it and just sit there in your armchair throwing **** insults and complaints whenever your minions in the development business don't please you.

Like this one:

it has a 5-6 major errors that cannot be excused or forgoten (like only VII type subs, campaign finish on 1943,)

It's one thing to disagree with a feature, but "major errors"? And what do you mean, that's "inexcusable", we asked for it! People have been screaming for full interiors since the SHIII days, many of them saying they'd be fine with a smaller selection of subs if only they had full interiors. Then SH5 finally does it... and that's wrong, too. They must be scratching their heads in Bucharest right now.

I mean, I know Subsim has a huge influence and all, but lately everyone here has been acting like they own the company or something, or that SH5 is being made only for Subsim members. "We asked for this and this and this, how dare you not give it to us!". Seriously, people, get your feet back down on the ground and recognize that Ubi has as much of a right to try new things as do the rest of us.

:slightly off-topic:

i mean the game is comming out in 2010 and it looks like (engine, graphics etc.) it is from 2007

Gameplay over graphics.
:/ot:

I'm a teapot.

[The General]

[Rant!]

I'd like it if people didn't repost masses of photos when they quote a previous post. We all saw the photos, we don't need you posting the entire batch again! Just put the "Quote-Box" around the specific text you wanna reference, not the whole ****ing thing!

Thank you

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[Safe-Keeper]

[Rant!]

Strongly agree. Not to mention the people who quote a gargantuan post just to write a two lines long reply. It's just bad form.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Might I add to the topic of this thread, a huge increase in threads that really say the same thing over and over and over again.

Good lord yes. I wish we could have a cleanup.

[longam]

Wow

[Reece]

Originally Posted by The General

[Rant!]

I'd like it if people didn't repost masses of photos when they quote a previous post. We all saw the photos, we don't need you posting the entire batch again! Just put the "Quote-Box" around the specific text you wanna reference, not the whole ****ing thing!

Thank you

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It's the grouch again!!