"Hitler" drinking game mocks holocaust - Page 2

Oberon · 01-14-10, 04:30 PM

That's another fault with this game, German ranks are hard enough to pronounce when sober!!

Ducimus · 01-14-10, 04:56 PM

If things like, racist Neo nazi's, holocaust denial and historical revisonism didn't exist today - that might acutally be funny. But they do, and it's not.

Carotio · 01-14-10, 07:08 PM

Apparently, the FB group is erased now, probably as a result of complaints, but someone has then established a support group... typically, FB mentality...
Hitler – The Drinking Game --> THE GUYS WHO CREATED THE HITLER DRINKING GAME ARE LEGENDS!!!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=250160521497
This group then passes on the rules for the drinking game.

I wonder how long that group will exist....

Morons....

DarkFish · 01-14-10, 09:31 PM

well at first I was kinda neutral
but now that I've read this thread a couple of times and thought about it, I have to admit I'm now actually supportive of the students.

For starters, it's a game (and it does look like a funny one at that)! It's not the real world. If we play as a German Kaleun, we're also supporting the nazis. We mercilessly sink allied ships, even passenger liners, not thinking of all the innocent lives that that may have cost in reality. Why? Because it's FUN! Games are for FUN, they're not there to remember all lives that have been lost, however tragical that may be!
If I run a bullet through the head of a Russian soldier when playing a German in CoD:WaW, I'm not gonna pray for the souls of all poor Russians who have been slaughtered by the Germans in WW2. Similarly, if I make a nazi salute I ain't gonna pray for all exterminated Jews. (I'm an atheist so I don't pray anyway, but still

)

Secondly, I dont know where you all usually play your drinking games, but *I* generally don't do it in public. A drinking game is a private event, and only people who consent participate. It's not like millions of people are being forced here to watch students make nazi salutes.
Sure, they posted it on facebook. So what? No-one's gonna force you to go to their facebook page. If you don't want to see it, don't go there. You have that choice!

Oh man, I'm sure I'm gonna regret having ever posted this

[Jumps into bomb shelter waiting for the artillery barrage to come]

Oberon · 01-15-10, 08:46 AM

Depends on your view of fun I guess.
It is a bit of a storm in a teacup, after all, they're students, they do stupid things, particularly when they've had a few, however at the end of the day it's primarily about the continued rise of far right groups across Europe (and indeed the world). I think it's rather unlikely we'd see about Hitler in the strictest sense of the word, people are too jumpy and quick to pull the Nazi card at the slightest sense of racial inequality, and of course, most of Europe is too scared to pass anything that might be seen as inequality...but there is definately a slow movement towards more right-wing ideals when left-wing politicians continually stuff things up (not that right wingers have done things that much better, but social memory is short)
I think there's a lot of sensitivity around the Holocaust, and a lot of emotion, which is hardly surprising, and things like this are bound to provoke a reaction.

Schroeder · 01-15-10, 09:30 AM

Maybe it was all just about provoking reactions.

Stealth Hunter · 01-15-10, 02:51 PM

I actually thought it was kind of funny, just because it involves Hitler and really a lot of creative thinking.

When will we have a STALIN drinking game?

XabbaRus · 01-15-10, 03:08 PM

There is a bit of a difference playing a german u-boat commander than getting rat arsed, doing Hitler salutes and saying things like One member suggested Bailey's liqueur should be mandatory, because: "The Holocaust concludes with necking a Jew's brain."
If you find that a laugh up to you but I and many people don't.

You see there are drinking games, and drinking games, and this ain't one to be proud of.

I don't find the hakenkruz on my -109 in IL-2 automatically offensive or on my model plane as that is the historical context it was in.

I do find people daubing swastica's on themselves and doing Nazi salutes in the name of fun at best distasteful. If the guys who started this think it is a laugh then they have a severe lack of understanding of the world and history and I also doubt whether they are "decent" people.

Sure Facebook in the main does seem to be filled with tossers who have no life.

PS. I also hate the lame excuse "well they're students, students do stupid stuff." Well in terms of doing stupid stuff, British students seem to lead the world.

01-15-10, 03:20 PM

Freedom Of Speech was never intended to protect popular speech only.

They can say what they wish, but they should also have enough brains to know that others will judge them accordingly, and may react accordingly.

(Note: Freedom Of Speech only protects against speech restrictions imposed by government, NOT other people and entities.)

Letum · 01-15-10, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Freedom Of Speech was never intended to protect popular speech only.

I don't think this is much of a freedom of speech issue.
the drinkers are not interested in communication a point of view or a message.

AVGWarhawk · 01-15-10, 03:35 PM

This game will look great on their resumes!

Extra Cirricular Activity: Hilter Drinking Game

FAIL!

01-15-10, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

I don't think this is much of a freedom of speech issue.
the drinkers are not interested in communication a point of view or a message.

My point was that they can say whatever they wish but, they had better be prepared to pay the consequences that other people may bestow upon them.

d@rk51d3 · 01-15-10, 04:55 PM

Quite ironic, considering that Hitler didn't drink.

Jimbuna · 01-15-10, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

This game will look great on their resumes!

Extra Cirricular Activity: Hilter Drinking Game

FAIL!

Possibly even...

01-14-10, 07:08 PM	#18
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Apparently, the FB group is erased now, probably as a result of complaints, but someone has then established a support group... typically, FB mentality... Hitler – The Drinking Game --> THE GUYS WHO CREATED THE HITLER DRINKING GAME ARE LEGENDS!!! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=250160521497 This group then passes on the rules for the drinking game. I wonder how long that group will exist.... Morons.... __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano

01-14-10, 09:31 PM	#19
DarkFish Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stinking drunk in Eindhoven, the Netherlands Posts: 1,844 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	well at first I was kinda neutral but now that I've read this thread a couple of times and thought about it, I have to admit I'm now actually supportive of the students. For starters, it's a game (and it does look like a funny one at that)! It's not the real world. If we play as a German Kaleun, we're also supporting the nazis. We mercilessly sink allied ships, even passenger liners, not thinking of all the innocent lives that that may have cost in reality. Why? Because it's FUN! Games are for FUN, they're not there to remember all lives that have been lost, however tragical that may be! If I run a bullet through the head of a Russian soldier when playing a German in CoD:WaW, I'm not gonna pray for the souls of all poor Russians who have been slaughtered by the Germans in WW2. Similarly, if I make a nazi salute I ain't gonna pray for all exterminated Jews. (I'm an atheist so I don't pray anyway, but still) Secondly, I dont know where you all usually play your drinking games, but I generally don't do it in public. A drinking game is a private event, and only people who consent participate. It's not like millions of people are being forced here to watch students make nazi salutes. Sure, they posted it on facebook. So what? No-one's gonna force you to go to their facebook page. If you don't want to see it, don't go there. You have that choice! Oh man, I'm sure I'm gonna regret having ever posted this [Jumps into bomb shelter waiting for the artillery barrage to come] __________________

01-15-10, 09:30 AM	#21
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Maybe it was all just about provoking reactions. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

01-15-10, 03:08 PM	#23
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	There is a bit of a difference playing a german u-boat commander than getting rat arsed, doing Hitler salutes and saying things like One member suggested Bailey's liqueur should be mandatory, because: "The Holocaust concludes with necking a Jew's brain." If you find that a laugh up to you but I and many people don't. You see there are drinking games, and drinking games, and this ain't one to be proud of. I don't find the hakenkruz on my -109 in IL-2 automatically offensive or on my model plane as that is the historical context it was in. I do find people daubing swastica's on themselves and doing Nazi salutes in the name of fun at best distasteful. If the guys who started this think it is a laugh then they have a severe lack of understanding of the world and history and I also doubt whether they are "decent" people. Sure Facebook in the main does seem to be filled with tossers who have no life. PS. I also hate the lame excuse "well they're students, students do stupid stuff." Well in terms of doing stupid stuff, British students seem to lead the world. __________________

01-15-10, 03:35 PM	#26
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	This game will look great on their resumes! Extra Cirricular Activity: Hilter Drinking Game FAIL! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-14-10, 04:30 PM	#16
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	That's another fault with this game, German ranks are hard enough to pronounce when sober!!

01-14-10, 04:56 PM	#17
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	If things like, racist Neo nazi's, holocaust denial and historical revisonism didn't exist today - that might acutally be funny. But they do, and it's not.

01-15-10, 08:46 AM	#20
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Depends on your view of fun I guess. It is a bit of a storm in a teacup, after all, they're students, they do stupid things, particularly when they've had a few, however at the end of the day it's primarily about the continued rise of far right groups across Europe (and indeed the world). I think it's rather unlikely we'd see about Hitler in the strictest sense of the word, people are too jumpy and quick to pull the Nazi card at the slightest sense of racial inequality, and of course, most of Europe is too scared to pass anything that might be seen as inequality...but there is definately a slow movement towards more right-wing ideals when left-wing politicians continually stuff things up (not that right wingers have done things that much better, but social memory is short) I think there's a lot of sensitivity around the Holocaust, and a lot of emotion, which is hardly surprising, and things like this are bound to provoke a reaction.

01-15-10, 02:51 PM	#22
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I actually thought it was kind of funny, just because it involves Hitler and really a lot of creative thinking. When will we have a STALIN drinking game?

01-15-10, 03:20 PM	#24
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Freedom Of Speech was never intended to protect popular speech only. They can say what they wish, but they should also have enough brains to know that others will judge them accordingly, and may react accordingly. (Note: Freedom Of Speech only protects against speech restrictions imposed by government, NOT other people and entities.)

01-15-10, 04:55 PM	#28
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,951 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Quite ironic, considering that Hitler didn't drink.