Vet. claims Avatar portrays marines as psycho... - Page 2

Aramike · 01-12-10, 06:20 PM

Now Avatar is causing depression and suicidal thoughts:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ues/index.html

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"One can say my depression was twofold: I was depressed because I really wanted to live in Pandora, which seemed like such a perfect place, but I was also depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world, what we have done to Earth. I so much wanted to escape reality," Hill said.

He "so much wanted to escape reality"???

Sounds like he already has.

Platapus · 01-12-10, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Between this and the claims of the plot rip off from Pochantis (sp?) I sometimes wonder if they arent just stirring up buzz to garner interest.

I don't think anyone is claiming it is a rip off. Evidently it is the same plot of the movie "A man called Horse".

I have not seen the movie either. Will probably add it to my netflix account... or not. Depends on what else is out there.

Platapus · 01-12-10, 07:01 PM

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Balcer says the film makes Marines "look like lunatics." In reality, he said, "We are a good, generous country that helps people."

Balcer's comments might mean something, and I might even care what he thinks, if Avatar was being marketed as a documentary or a non-fiction movie. But it is not. It is a FICTION movie. Nothing in the move is real nor is it intended to be real. That's the whole idea behind fiction.

So in real life marines can be the good guys and in a fictional movie they can be the bad guys.....why? because it is fiction.

[Fiction refers to books and stories about imaginary people and events, rather than books about real people or events.[/quote

http://www.google.com/dictionary?aq=...l=en&q=fiction

I guess people like Balcer feel they have to bitch about something.

nikimcbee · 01-12-10, 07:18 PM

Expensive graphics aside

, Avatar is nothing more than Liberal, whiteman's guilt on display. It's only a movie, if you don't like it, don't see it. When I saw it, this was the first thing I thought of:
(Avatar, the non-3D version

)

I still stand by my review of it: It's Dances with wolves story with Shaka zulu characters, set in Jurrasic park.

I didn't think it was that bad, I just rolled my eyes when they got to the preachy part.

Platapus · 01-12-10, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I still stand by my review of it: It's Dances with wolves story with Shaka zulu characters, set in Jurrasic park.

Is it "Dances with wolves" or "A man called Horse" I have heard both. Which did you think was closer?

CaptainHaplo · 01-12-10, 07:49 PM

Its more like "A man called Horse who Dances with Wolves - badly".

TarJak · 01-12-10, 09:06 PM

^^

Wolfehunter · 01-12-10, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

Hardcore right wingers are REALLY up in arms over Avatar. You should have heard Rush Limbaugh rallying against it the other day (Yeah, I'm an EXTREME lefty, but I do occasionally listen to the righties sometimes just to hear the opposing viewpoints). There were conservatives yelling and screaming everything from "portraying big business as being sinister and irresponsible, and greedy", "Our military is evil and totalitarian" to "Paganism and teaching anti-Christian values". Aparently, a lot of hardcore right wingers see this movie as an attack on everything they hold dear and claim that it's part of a mass media conspiracy to brainwash kids to think that conservative, right wing values are evil, self serving, and detrimental.

Apparently... EVERYTHING is a conspiracy against The Right according to our friend Rush.

Dude. It's just a MOVIE !
And yes... there ARE SOME rings of TRUTH in the movie's message regardless of what people claim about it. There are SO MANY examples of the truth behind it's message.

Yup I love the movie too. They have nothing better to do than whine.. Well that's there right I guess...

Not like its going to change anything... Money talks everything else walks...

August · 01-12-10, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

They have nothing better to do than whine.. Well that's there right I guess...

Apparently you missed Xabbas most excellent reply:

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Well the left wing are up in arms because Avatar is racist apparently.

They are saying it perpetuates the white mesiah saving the natives from themselves idea.

I personally think there are so many people who have nothing better to do than get offended and read too much into things.

Both sides have their whiners.

nikimcbee · 01-13-10, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Is it "Dances with wolves" or "A man called Horse" I have heard both. Which did you think was closer?

It's been a looooooooooong since I've seen the "Horse" one. The motives are different between Avatar and DwW. In Avatar, the motive is bad, in DwW, Costner dosen't have much of a choice, as there is no one else on the praire to talk to. Plus the Army in DwW was out there to protect settlers from the American Indians.

Weiss Pinguin · 01-13-10, 10:56 AM

I guess it was kind of like A Man Called Horse, except instead of being captured, his whole goal was to get in with the natives, and that kinda changes his motives. It was like a lot of movies lol

Catfish · 01-13-10, 01:07 PM

Hello,
it is certainly a break to the usually glorified Hollywood phantasies they call "war".
Guess Mr. Balcer would have liked the 1943 propaganda film with H. Bogart "Action in the North Atlantic" better, the bad guys are where they belong like germans gunning down shipwrecked sailors and their commander wearing a white silk scarf - or maybe "U-571" ? I heard submarine veterans gave standing ovations after the premiere of this lousy piece of concocted history.
Or maybe he is just still uninformed about with what greater intentions he was sent to 'nam, or wherever ? Helping the people, really !

Yes i'm biased, i think Avatar was a damn good film, better than a lot i saw in the last 10 years. And yes, "Avatar " is anti-military from its message (if not from the pictures, and action scenes lol) so according to Balcer it certainly must be anti-american

Greetings,
Catfish

jimbob · 01-13-10, 05:23 PM

So, a marine has sand in vagina because of Pocahontas-2099 teh movie ?

Like, there's no real problems about.

Blacklight · 01-13-10, 06:13 PM

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So, a marine has sand in vagina because of Pocahontas-2099 teh movie ?

More like "Dances With Wolves" 2009 on an alien planet.

01-13-10, 06:33 PM

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"This is the only time I ever sat in a theater where people were cheering the forest and the blue people, attacking ex-Marines," Roeser said.

I wonder how many films with blue people in Tom Roeser has watched?

01-12-10, 07:18 PM	#19
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Expensive graphics aside, Avatar is nothing more than Liberal, whiteman's guilt on display. It's only a movie, if you don't like it, don't see it. When I saw it, this was the first thing I thought of: (Avatar, the non-3D version) I still stand by my review of it: It's Dances with wolves story with Shaka zulu characters, set in Jurrasic park. I didn't think it was that bad, I just rolled my eyes when they got to the preachy part. __________________

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CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Its more like "A man called Horse who Dances with Wolves - badly". __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

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Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	I guess it was kind of like A Man Called Horse, except instead of being captured, his whole goal was to get in with the natives, and that kinda changes his motives. It was like a lot of movies lol __________________

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	^^

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello, it is certainly a break to the usually glorified Hollywood phantasies they call "war". Guess Mr. Balcer would have liked the 1943 propaganda film with H. Bogart "Action in the North Atlantic" better, the bad guys are where they belong like germans gunning down shipwrecked sailors and their commander wearing a white silk scarf - or maybe "U-571" ? I heard submarine veterans gave standing ovations after the premiere of this lousy piece of concocted history. Or maybe he is just still uninformed about with what greater intentions he was sent to 'nam, or wherever ? Helping the people, really ! Yes i'm biased, i think Avatar was a damn good film, better than a lot i saw in the last 10 years. And yes, "Avatar " is anti-military from its message (if not from the pictures, and action scenes lol) so according to Balcer it certainly must be anti-american Greetings, Catfish

01-13-10, 05:23 PM	#28
jimbob Ensign Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 225 Downloads: 365 Uploads: 6	So, a marine has sand in vagina because of Pocahontas-2099 teh movie ? Like, there's no real problems about.