Who says Texans live in the dark ages? - Page 2

Letum · 12-13-09, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Wow. Looks like gay people are really making your life tough SB.

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Simply gays: never. Freaks: yes.

Tell me SB; on a scale of 1-10 where '1' is 'not at all' and '10 is 'it's hardly worth living anymore', how hard are these "freaks" making your life?

Stealth Hunter · 12-13-09, 09:07 PM

One. Lol. But it's a start in the right direction.

antikristuseke · 12-13-09, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Tell me SB; on a scale of 1-10 where '1' is 'not at all' and '10 is 'it's hardly worth living anymore', how hard are these "freaks" making your life?

You concidering becoming one in an effort to get skybird to kill himself?

Skybird · 12-13-09, 09:37 PM

Tell me Letum, on a scale from 1 to 10, how offending is it to you if almost naked people next to you conduct obsceneties and sexually provocative actions - in a cultural environment where nudity and sexual practice still are banned to the private sphere and could - and do - violate other people's feelings and shame?

I am by far no sexually inhibited person, but I think the modern society is totally over-saturated with sexual overkill stimuli both from the media and social rules of conduct being pushed beyond limits. And not only does it kill my nerves, but I also see it doing damage.

Again, no problem with normal gays - and as I said in earlier threads, I know from gays themselves that they hate these "freaks on parade" themselves. Most gays do not wish to be asscoated with the freak show CSD has turned into. People making their sexuality a public business and think they must violate public consensual rules by forcing others needing to witness their naughtiness and call that a test of "tolerance" - these are a problem. Not to me in special, but to your society in general.

Identity does not get defined by unlimited tolerance for all and everything, Letum. Tolerance needs limits. My limits regarding sexuality for example are met when considering scenes from CSD, or a domina in black leather leading a man on the line lkike a dog - in public, or a camera team in a quick action shoots a porno under a public bridge - or gays and lesbians thinking they must kiss and touch half naked on parading trucks becasue they think they must act their secual orientatiton in public demonstration . That may be okay in other, natural cultures, or during an orgy, but it is not okay in our cltural public context. And that is where the normal people, gay or not, get separated from the freaks who hijack the public to make it a part of their mating habits.

Unlimited freedom you can only get by total rejection of any communal identity alltogether - and that is anarchy. You cannot violate social values and and communal rules and puszh them to the limits forever, and think that this would keep the identity feeling of the community intact.

With nudity and sexuality, it is quite much like with relgion. It is your oprivate thing, keep it in your pirvatesphere where you can do whatever you want. where you demand the public to accept special recognition for your belief or sexuality, you are no longer relgious or privbate, but become political. And then it is when religion and sexuality of the few become a nuisance, a problem, a threat for all.

what it comes down to, in plain English, is this: if people are around or could turn around the corner any moment, keep your buttocks where they belong: in your trousers, covered, and don't make such a big deal of your sexual preferences and practices. That simple it is, Letum. If you can't see that - bad for you.

Read my sig. If you haven't noticed it, it is fully valid in the context of this thread's object, too. If you don't believe that, try to criticise a gay rights march in a public media - and see how very intolerant the PC brigade and those being criticised all of a sudden can become. The acceptance of almost totalitarian rules to enforce your withdrawing from your opinion often is not far away then.

Skybird · 12-13-09, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Activism by underprivileged or persecuted minority groups be they gender,

Gays and lesbians in Western nations - underpriviliged or persecuted .

Hahahahahahahaha.

There are many nations where they are indeed. Modern western nations like Germany, France, England, Sweden, America do not belong to these.

Letum · 12-13-09, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Read my sig. If you haven't noticed it, it is fully valid in the context of this thread's object, too.

...your suggesting that there is an onslaught of intolerant gay people
destroying our tolerant society?
However shall we defend our selves from all the double entendres and bare bums!

Perhaps I am just yet to "witness their naughtiness".

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Gays and lesbians in Western nations - underpriviliged or persecuted .

Hahahahahahahaha.

There are many nations where they are indeed. Modern western nations like Germany, France, England, Sweden, America do not belong to these.

England certainly does.
It's getting better, especially in less rural places and amongst the young, but unfortunately
there is still plenty of prejudice and 'traditional' values about.
The recent scandal of the reporting of the death of a gay singer in a tabloid here is but the
mildest of examples.

Onkel Neal · 12-13-09, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Oops..

I should have checked first!

Both of them are Democrats, an openly gay person elected in Texas...

Well, from an exterior point of view that's, indeed, very surprising!

I have to say, "dark ages"? Surprising? Sounds like some of you are uninformed and basing your knowledge on dated stereotypes.

GoldenRivet · 12-13-09, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I have to say, "dark ages"? Surprising? Sounds like some of you are uninformed and basing your knowledge on dated stereotypes.

Yup...

Ask anyone who has never been to Texas and they will probably tell you.

Rednecks and cowboys everywhere, nothing but desert waste land with tumbleweeds... dry... acrid place filled with uneducated SUV driving gunslingers where justice is served at the end of a rope.

To those folks... i say, come stay 3 days at my old man's bed and breakfast and see for yourself what the climate, people and landscape are really like.

Méo · 12-13-09, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I have to say, "dark ages"? Surprising? Sounds like some of you are uninformed and basing your knowledge on dated stereotypes.

Well, I'm not the one who used the “dark ages” expression, this is indeed a stereotype (I didn't even know before that this expression existed to describe Texans).

Trust me, there are also a lot of stereotypes about us in Québec.

It's not because I am surprised that I tend to offend anyone in Texas.

I'm just basing on many comments and threads in GT, a lot guys here seem to have a “phobia” about democrats, that's why I'm surprised that an openly gay democrat person had been elected.

nikimcbee · 12-14-09, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I have to say, "dark ages"? Surprising? Sounds like some of you are uninformed and basing your knowledge on dated stereotypes.

Having been to Texas three times, I can confirm that TX is not in the Dark Ages. They have atleast made it to the early 20th century. Neal did have this kind of modem though:

And I did see a few horseless carriages'. Here's a picture of Neal's SUV:

You must be thinking of AR or LA.

GoldenRivet · 12-14-09, 12:46 AM

Louisiana... he is definitely thinking of Louisiana

XabbaRus · 12-14-09, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I have to say, "dark ages"? Surprising? Sounds like some of you are uninformed and basing your knowledge on dated stereotypes.

I was trying to be humourous. I know Texas isn't like that, but the stereotype is.

I don't think Texas is full of pickup driving rednecks called Bubba, but many people do.....

Note to self : don't try to be funny.

12-14-09, 04:28 AM

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Louisiana... he is definitely thinking of Louisiana

It can't be Louisiana, God smote that place with a mighty flood for its tolerance of people with a homosexual orientation.

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this is no big deal and anyone who makes a big deal out of it has their own issues.

Yep those that make a big issue out of gays often turn out to be real screaming queens in secret.

Skybird · 12-14-09, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I have to say, "dark ages"? Surprising? Sounds like some of you are uninformed and basing your knowledge on dated stereotypes.

Since I have had my first TI-30 long time ago, at least I know they can count from 1 to 10.

Onkel Neal · 12-14-09, 06:41 AM

Whew! Ok, I feel better. I mean, come on, of course we elected a gay Democrat for Mayor. The other candidate was a black Democrat.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,630 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Tell me Letum, on a scale from 1 to 10, how offending is it to you if almost naked people next to you conduct obsceneties and sexually provocative actions - in a cultural environment where nudity and sexual practice still are banned to the private sphere and could - and do - violate other people's feelings and shame? I am by far no sexually inhibited person, but I think the modern society is totally over-saturated with sexual overkill stimuli both from the media and social rules of conduct being pushed beyond limits. And not only does it kill my nerves, but I also see it doing damage. Again, no problem with normal gays - and as I said in earlier threads, I know from gays themselves that they hate these "freaks on parade" themselves. Most gays do not wish to be asscoated with the freak show CSD has turned into. People making their sexuality a public business and think they must violate public consensual rules by forcing others needing to witness their naughtiness and call that a test of "tolerance" - these are a problem. Not to me in special, but to your society in general. Identity does not get defined by unlimited tolerance for all and everything, Letum. Tolerance needs limits. My limits regarding sexuality for example are met when considering scenes from CSD, or a domina in black leather leading a man on the line lkike a dog - in public, or a camera team in a quick action shoots a porno under a public bridge - or gays and lesbians thinking they must kiss and touch half naked on parading trucks becasue they think they must act their secual orientatiton in public demonstration . That may be okay in other, natural cultures, or during an orgy, but it is not okay in our cltural public context. And that is where the normal people, gay or not, get separated from the freaks who hijack the public to make it a part of their mating habits. Unlimited freedom you can only get by total rejection of any communal identity alltogether - and that is anarchy. You cannot violate social values and and communal rules and puszh them to the limits forever, and think that this would keep the identity feeling of the community intact. With nudity and sexuality, it is quite much like with relgion. It is your oprivate thing, keep it in your pirvatesphere where you can do whatever you want. where you demand the public to accept special recognition for your belief or sexuality, you are no longer relgious or privbate, but become political. And then it is when religion and sexuality of the few become a nuisance, a problem, a threat for all. what it comes down to, in plain English, is this: if people are around or could turn around the corner any moment, keep your buttocks where they belong: in your trousers, covered, and don't make such a big deal of your sexual preferences and practices. That simple it is, Letum. If you can't see that - bad for you. Read my sig. If you haven't noticed it, it is fully valid in the context of this thread's object, too. If you don't believe that, try to criticise a gay rights march in a public media - and see how very intolerant the PC brigade and those being criticised all of a sudden can become. The acceptance of almost totalitarian rules to enforce your withdrawing from your opinion often is not far away then. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Louisiana... he is definitely thinking of Louisiana __________________

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Whew! Ok, I feel better. I mean, come on, of course we elected a gay Democrat for Mayor. The other candidate was a black Democrat. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	One. Lol. But it's a start in the right direction.