Think about this when buying your next computer

[gutted]

my personal belief is that humans as a species have the potential to do anything they put their minds to.

If portions of our species still live like it's the middle ages, its because they choose to.

We as developed nations should not cuddle them because they dont have it as good as us. They have the same flesh and same mind us we do, yet they live in filth and squalor because they allow themselves to be ruled by despots... or allow their religious beliefs to hold back any progress their society could have made in the last 1000 years.

what about those poor starvation nations that have no food you say?

Is it my fault humans settled in places with no food?

no.

as i said, natural selection.


for many many many years, the US has sent food and aid and money to nations all around the world.. and the thanks we get is that they hate us.

so lets just stop sending them aid and let natural selection run its course.

[Shearwater]

Originally Posted by gutted

i dont see the problem.

Let me show you the problem:

Originally Posted by gutted

i dont see the problem.

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Funny how the US is catching alot of blame here - but we have put forth alot of effort to insure that such things are dealt with appropriately.
[...]
So gee, its not always a question of dumping. Its often people who CHOOSE to expose themselves to the hazardous materials simply to enrich themselves in the short term. This often also occurs - as in the case I know of - where they do so at the cost of their society.

Not meaning to sound harsh - but they choose that - and somehow its the evil US corporation that caused it - when all we were doing was trying to help the local people have a more modern level of health care.

It's not only about US companies, but it applies generally to any affluent country. I don't doubt that US laws (or any other Western laws) are very strict when it comes to that questionable sort of recycling, and for the most part they work well. Though US didn't join that agreement, but of course they have laws of their own.
Nonetheless, there's plenty of instances where shady companies manage to ship old computers to Africa to do just that sort of thing. It's targetted at them, not at specific countries in general.
And I doubt whether it's really a choice, considering the alternatives.

Originally Posted by gutted

no sympathy from me.

maybe if they quit fighting each other, and move into the 21st century and manufacture something the world wants... they wouldn't be our dumpsters.

same goes for every other backwards country.

Yeah ... I guess they're just too stupid to figure that out. Natural selection at its finest.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Planning to go there and starve kids? Usually it's napalm for the kids when it comes to you Americans.

August proposed that a potentially dangerous job was better than starvation.

You proposed the theory that Americans intentionally drop napalm on children.

I propose that this was an unwarranted attack, and further propose that you be censured.

[gutted]

I propose the world stops shedding tears for stupid people.


When katrina rolled through here, and they said "get out". i got out.

all the idiots who stayed and got stranded cried foul when they were called refugees. Al Sharpton: "This is america, you dont call americans refugees!! thats just racist!!".

well im sorry, what should we call you? we cant call you evacuees.. because you didnt evacuate! you're a refugee.. live with it.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

August proposed that a potentially dangerous job was better than starvation.

You proposed the theory that Americans intentionally drop napalm on children.

I propose that this was an unwarranted attack, and further propose that you be censured.

It he who brought up the issue of those kids starving not me. So...what exactly does he mean then?

You can ban me for all you want but don't posture as some kind of bastion of free speech you ****ing racists.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

You can ban me for all you want but don't posture as some kind of bastion of free speech you ****ing racists.

This from someone who makes comments that blanket an entire people into "child napalmers" ??? (see quote below)

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Planning to go there and starve kids? Usually it's napalm for the kids when it comes to you Americans.

Interesting comments by you in this thread OTH... interesting indeed.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

This from someone who makes comments that blanket an entire people into "child napalmers" ??? (see quote below)



Interesting comments by you in this thread OTH... interesting indeed.

Yep, I answered August's comment with the type of answer it deserved.

But by all means, ban me and let SB & co. get away with writing several page long racist rants. Free speech, riiight.

[XabbaRus]

Well reading this you will see that you are brigged.

You don't make reasoned thought out comments you just lash out with a straight attack usually at America and Americans with no rationale at all, and you like to call Skybird racist.

I don't agree with a lot of what Skybird writes but I wouldn't call him racist.

It just seems that you don't get it and can't see why you upset people. You can't have it both ways.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

It he who brought up the issue of those kids starving not me. So...what exactly does he mean then?

I normally wouldn't reply to someone who can't respond in kind, but I think this requires it.

What he meant was that if the choice is having a dangerous job or starving, by all means go with the dangerous job, though a non-dangerous job will be preferable. August never proposed that kids should starve. That kind of reverse comment is called sarcasm.

You can ban me for all you want but don't posture as some kind of bastion of free speech you ****ing racists.

Arguing, even forcefully, even passionately, is free speech. Direct attacks, including name-calling, are not.

[SteamWake]

So ummm...

Hey keep those same thoughts in mind when purchasing a hybrid car.

I would be willing to bet there are 10 times more heavy / toxic metals in one of those that most computers.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

So ummm...

Hey keep those same thoughts in mind when purchasing a hybrid car.

I would be willing to bet there are 10 times more heavy / toxic metals in one of those that most computers.

I'm right behind you at the betting booth on that one.

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

What he meant was that if the choice is having a dangerous job or starving, by all means go with the dangerous job, though a non-dangerous job will be preferable. August never proposed that kids should starve. That kind of reverse comment is called sarcasm.

Thank you Steve. That was exactly what I meant and all that I meant. It's difficult to believe that even with a language barrier anything more could have been read into it.

[nikimcbee]

Wow, we done caught us a troll, Jim Bob.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

So ummm...

Hey keep those same thoughts in mind when purchasing a hybrid car.

I would be willing to bet there are 10 times more heavy / toxic metals in one of those that most computers.

Yeah, that's so oldschool. They don't even use lead anymore in the manufacturung process anymore in processors. But you are correct, those hybrid batteries are really toxic, and they mine them up in canada. I don't remember what the metal is though.

[Dowly]

Salute Gutted.

I like your mindset, very similar to mine.

And I dont understand why people here are gasping over what you said.

True words, every single one of them.

You cant help those countries by paying everything to them, do you except that they really would want to start putting their backs into it and try and make their lives better when they can just sit put and let the western worlds pay everything for them?