Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t president

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

The State Department would most likely be the culprit here. They handle passports and a birth certificate is required to receive one as a US Citizen. If he needed a US passport.

From the PolitiFact article: "If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State's office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies."

It's a bit like the 9/11 hoax/inside job conspiracy theories. There would have to be a lot of people on the inside who at least knew what was going on, and they're not all going to stay silent. Our government is one of the most open, and thus one of the most leaky out there. I mean, one recent President couldn't even keep a blowjob secret. If such a massive crime against our country came from the inside, you'd never be able to keep it a secret.

A lot of different agencies and individuals would have to have been involved in this Obama hoax. Any person who blew the whistle would certainly be handsomely rewarded by the other side. The fact that we haven't heard a whistle means that there almost certainly isn't a whistle to blow.

It's annoying that these things go around, because as the PolitiFact article points out, conspriacy theories cost the government (and thus taxpayers) a lot of money. The TWA 800 investigator says that the conspiracy theories around that investigation cost the public $20 million. And in a lot of cases the people forcing the government to spend that money are the very ones who complain that the government spends too much. Freaking hypocrites.

I'M PRESIDENT!



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[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Rilder

I'M PRESIDENT!



:rotfl:

go fight in the shade

[Tchocky]

Oberon wins the thread.

But his username is a little too familiar, a little to close to you-know-who. I think he's in on the plot.

We're keeping an eye on you, Comrade.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Max2147

From the PolitiFact article: "If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud.

OK. Then just release the damn birth certificate and shut everyone who is concerned up. It's that simple. The fact that they can't or won't leaves doubt....like it or not. I myself would like to see the documents that prove eligibility.

I want to know which hospital Obama was born in. Not reported by Internet article, but by proof of birth certificate. Most people who defend Obama on this issue have no clue themselves what hospital Obama was born in and can't prove it as no proof has been provided.

Why has Mr. Obama spent so much money suppressing the documents?

Transparency?

[geetrue]

Is Barrack Obama a legal citizen?

Citizen of the United States of America???

Natural born???

Both parents US citizens???

Mother 18 or older???

I don't think so ...


http://sites.google.com/site/obamabirth/

Barack Obama was on the ballot of every state. Certainly, this means that he filed his candidacy and made allegations in his candidacy in all these states that he is a natural born citizen. And certainly, the government agencies involved did not merely take him at his word but required his proof of natural born citizenship.

Certainly, all these applications in each state have attachments proving the same. How old is he? Is he at least 35? Was he born of US parents on US soil? All these information are understood to have been given to all the government agencies who accepted his candidacy.

So how come citizens are challenging Barack’s qualifications?

Isn’t this the job of the government agencies to challenge the allegations of all candidates?

http://houston.craigslist.org/pol/1265554158.html

A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday.

Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.

Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car.

Emergency medics pronounced him dead at the scene.

I bet Mrs Clinton by now knows the truth ... what will be the final outcome is up to who?

[Sea Demon]

What hospital was Obama born in? And who was the doctor who delivered him?

[Tchocky]

What was the weather like?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

So Obama has gone through his entire life, either fooling or being in cahoots with the Illinois Dept of Motor Vehicles, Harvard, the Illinois State Bar, the Hawaii Department of Health, election officials in 50 states, the Democratic Party, the Clinton campaign, and the Mccain campaign.

I doubt it... but

you would be surprised what you can do with the campaign finance money given to you by a Saudi Prince.

Your oval office has been purchased in cash funds by the Saudis.

wake up kids

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

OK. Then just release the damn birth certificate and shut everyone who is concerned up. It's that simple. The fact that they can't or won't leaves doubt....like it or not. I myself would like to see the documents that prove eligibility.

It won't do a shred of good, as nothing will ever be good enough proof. They have already released the birth certificate. It's been validated by numerous agencies and uninvolved people. The State of Hawaii says it's valid.

When we spoke to a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health, she said too much was being made of the difference between the so-called "long" and "short" forms.

"They're just words," said spokeswoman Janice Okubo. "That (what was posted on the Internet) is considered a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii."

"There's only one form of birth certificate," she said, and it's been the same since the 1980s. Birth certificates evolve over the decades, she said, and there are no doubt differences between the way birth certificates looked when Obama was born and now.

"When you request a birth certificate, the one you get looks exactly like the one posted on his site," she said. "That's the birth certificate."

As for the theory that Obama's original birth certificate might show he was foreign-born, Okubo said the "Certification of Live Birth" would say so. Obama's does not. Again, it says he was born in Honolulu.

But it's not good enough. It never will be. So these ridiculous calls are ignored and treated like the lunatic conspiracy theories they are.

One thing these people never address: If he was not born in the U.S., why were birth announcements published in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961?

In researching the story, he went to the microfilm archives and found the birth announcement for Obama. Actually, he found two of them, one in his Honululu Advertiser on Aug. 13 , 1961, and in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin the next day . They both said the same thing: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, son, Aug. 4."

But here's the thing. Newspaper officials he checked with confirmed those notices came from the state Department of Health.

"That's not the kind of stuff a family member calls in and says, 'Hey, can you put this in?'" Hoover explained.

Take a second and think about that. In order to phony those notices up, it would have required the complicity of the state Health Department and two independent newspapers — on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States.

Explain that.

[GoldenRivet]

with enough saudi oil money invested into my campaign... i could find a birth certificate, news paper article and several other documents attesting to the supposed "fact" that Osama Bin Laden was born to white parents in Waco, Texas in 1966

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

you would be surprised what you can do with the campaign finance money given to you by a Saudi Prince.

Your oval office has been purchased in cash funds by the Saudis.

wake up kids

Which President are you talking about there?

It appears questions persist. Even amoung the level headed membership of Susim.com.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

with enough saudi oil money invested into my campaign... i could find a birth certificate, news paper article and several other documents attesting to the supposed "fact" that Osama Bin Laden was born to white parents in Waco, Texas in 1966

So these sooper sekret agents of a wealthy Saudi prince broke into the library in Hawaii, planted the doctored microfiche, paid off Harvard, the Illinois State Bar, all of the election officals, blahblahblahblah.....