Why do we get sunk? - Page 2

nikbear · 06-27-09, 06:21 AM

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-172INT.htm

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-177INT.htm

Fascinating reading

meduza · 06-27-09, 06:29 AM

Thanks, nikbear. Great stuff.

Shadowblade · 06-27-09, 06:51 AM

2 nikbear: Thank you, Herr Kaleun

Sailor Steve · 06-27-09, 02:41 PM

I agree with the others: the main reason we get sunk is greed. I try to imagine it's real. I even questioned at one time if I would play differently if I put the game away forever if I died in a career, or at least for a year. I know I couldn't ever really do that, but it makes me think about being cautious sometimes.

Task Force · 06-27-09, 02:48 PM

Err.. how do we get sunk... simple we dont, we dive out of control till are sub Pops...

PappyCain · 06-27-09, 03:02 PM

I too am trying to make it all the way through the war with my original crew - yes, we know that was not historical. But never the less I am doing it on advanced settings to see if I can. So far, with some luck I am in late '44. But next port call, I am saying farewell to Helga. I am not sure my skills and luck will hold out UNLESS I become ultra cautious. I'll keep you posted. I am using maximum knowledge and patience. May not be enough without luck.

Task Force · 06-27-09, 03:04 PM

yes, im trying the same thing also.

keep my crew alive for 6 years.

Rafael · 06-27-09, 03:37 PM

My crew and me died today VIIC (May 1941), because of Karl Dönitz who sent me to war to soon!

BulSoldier · 06-28-09, 11:21 AM

I have to say i think (atleast to me) my acts of stupidity are proveked by the sometimes long and fruitless patrols.In witch you try to atleast not come home with almost no fuel, damaged boat and no kills at all , witch chasing a contact with no regard for personal safety.

Jimbuna · 06-28-09, 12:44 PM

It all boils down to greed (for tonnage) and recklessness.

The next time your in a position that calls for you to make a judgement/decision on whether you cary out an attack or move on, simply ask yourself "If this was in RL and my life as well as that of all my crew were at risk.....would I or wouldn't I?"

At least if you make the wrong decision you can always reload the game....a luxury not afforded to a Kaleun in RL.

Heffalump · 06-28-09, 03:14 PM

I'll be the one to ask the dumb question...

Why is port AOB better?

BulSoldier · 06-28-09, 03:38 PM

It is all the same, but if you make 180 degrees mystake the TDC will think the ship is moving in the oposite direction.

meduza · 06-28-09, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heffalump

I'll be the one to ask the dumb question...

Why is port AOB better?

It's not that the port AOB is better, but in this case it was the correct setting, because the ships showed me their port side. Setting the starboard AOB (like I did by mistake) caused the torpedoes to pass far behind the ship.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

The next time your in a position that calls for you to make a judgement/decision on whether you cary out an attack or move on, simply ask yourself "If this was in RL and my life as well as that of all my crew were at risk.....would I or wouldn't I?"

I guess in war people tend to do some crazy things.

Now I'm again in the similar situation, on second patrol of my new career. I was damaged by aircrafts 2 days after leaving the port (this time I crash dived immediately, but they were fast). The hull damage is probably serious, because there was a lot of flooding.
I already attack one small convoy, but didn't hit any ship and didn't have to face the escorts.
I'm considering returning to base, or continue my patrol hoping to find some unescortred merchants (not a lot of them in Med, though)...

BulSoldier · 06-28-09, 03:54 PM

Dont you have your hull integrity in percent. I played without it for a while but i discovered that whenever i get damaged i have no idea what is the damage to the boat when everything is repaired and that doesnt seem very realistic. Once i had massive damage (or atleast i thought so) just to discover that after 4 days of repairs and when i got finaly home i had more than 96% hull integrity...

meduza · 06-28-09, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BulSoldier

Dont you have your hull integrity in percent. I played without it for a while but i discovered that whenever i get damaged i have no idea what is the damage to the boat when everything is repaired and that doesnt seem very realistic. Once i had massive damage (or atleast i thought so) just to discover that after 4 days of repairs and when i got finaly home i had more than 96% hull integrity...

I know what you mean. I don't have the percentage display, but I'm thinking about enabling it.

I know that in RL the Kaleuns didn't have their hull integrity displayed

, but they must have had at least a vague idea about its condition.

Anyway, the greed prevailed once again...

The Southampton goes down, and Dido is following her. Maybe it won't cost me a career.

06-27-09, 06:21 AM	#16
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-172INT.htm http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-177INT.htm Fascinating reading __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

06-27-09, 06:29 AM	#17
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Thanks, nikbear. Great stuff. __________________

06-27-09, 06:51 AM	#18
Shadowblade Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 699 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	2 nikbear: Thank you, Herr Kaleun __________________ Kapitänleutnant Vlad von Carstein - U-Flotilla Saltzwedel - U-123, Type IXB SH3 GWX 3.0

06-27-09, 02:41 PM	#19
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I agree with the others: the main reason we get sunk is greed. I try to imagine it's real. I even questioned at one time if I would play differently if I put the game away forever if I died in a career, or at least for a year. I know I couldn't ever really do that, but it makes me think about being cautious sometimes. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-27-09, 02:48 PM	#20
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Err.. how do we get sunk... simple we dont, we dive out of control till are sub Pops... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

06-27-09, 03:02 PM	#21
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I too am trying to make it all the way through the war with my original crew - yes, we know that was not historical. But never the less I am doing it on advanced settings to see if I can. So far, with some luck I am in late '44. But next port call, I am saying farewell to Helga. I am not sure my skills and luck will hold out UNLESS I become ultra cautious. I'll keep you posted. I am using maximum knowledge and patience. May not be enough without luck.

06-27-09, 03:04 PM	#22
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yes, im trying the same thing also. keep my crew alive for 6 years. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

06-27-09, 03:37 PM	#23
Rafael Captain Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Rotterdam - The Netherlands Posts: 514 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 7	My crew and me died today VIIC (May 1941), because of Karl Dönitz who sent me to war to soon!

06-28-09, 11:21 AM	#24
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I have to say i think (atleast to me) my acts of stupidity are proveked by the sometimes long and fruitless patrols.In witch you try to atleast not come home with almost no fuel, damaged boat and no kills at all , witch chasing a contact with no regard for personal safety. __________________ By the hour !

06-28-09, 12:44 PM	#25
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It all boils down to greed (for tonnage) and recklessness. The next time your in a position that calls for you to make a judgement/decision on whether you cary out an attack or move on, simply ask yourself "If this was in RL and my life as well as that of all my crew were at risk.....would I or wouldn't I?" At least if you make the wrong decision you can always reload the game....a luxury not afforded to a Kaleun in RL. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-28-09, 03:14 PM	#26
Heffalump A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 77 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'll be the one to ask the dumb question... Why is port AOB better?

06-28-09, 03:38 PM	#27
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	It is all the same, but if you make 180 degrees mystake the TDC will think the ship is moving in the oposite direction. __________________ By the hour !

06-28-09, 03:54 PM	#29
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Dont you have your hull integrity in percent. I played without it for a while but i discovered that whenever i get damaged i have no idea what is the damage to the boat when everything is repaired and that doesnt seem very realistic. Once i had massive damage (or atleast i thought so) just to discover that after 4 days of repairs and when i got finaly home i had more than 96% hull integrity... __________________ By the hour !