Star Trek Movie Not To Be Missed

Originally Posted by Falkirion

And that is why it will fail. Did you watch the PT? It was the biggest load of garbage Lucas has ever written, the man should not be allowed anywhere near his own creation.

He's beating his own franchise to death.

Wrong Nemoy is behind the Story,

This is a New Star Trek Era,
Let It Begin,
See the Movie,
Then reply here

Originally Posted by longam

The new website for the movie is cool and has Trailer 3

http://www.startrekmovie.com/

Yep check it out View all the Trailors

[Skybird]

Spielberg hin, Lucas her -Special effects alone do not make a great movie. I saw the latest TV trailer over here, it is broadcasted regularly now - chaotic, and the cast very teen-TV-like.

I remain very sceptic. Casino Royal worked well because of the cool new actor (best Bond evah, imo), and well-dosing the action and balancing it against the narration. See how it degenerated in Quantom of Solace when narration was left behind and the gaps were filled with even more, chaotic action. Craig's first movie is the best Bond movie there is, but his second already is the worst there ever has been. The third Craig-Bond should be called "Balancing Extremes", maybe.

The point is, casino Royal was much closer to Ian Fleming'S novel and it'S mood, and the way he had constructed the figure. But the star Trek legacy is such that something vital gets lost if you skip this very tradition and reset everything back to beginning, we have seen that loss already in Voyager, and then even more in Enterprise - both were ripped out of the context forming that certain ST mood, and tradition. DS9 and TNG however, managed to fit into it, after the first one or two seasons, and that'S why they functioned well. What worked for 007, must not work for ST. Just imagine to redo Star Wars 4-6 with a new cast, without Harrison Ford as Han Solo, etc. It wopuld not work, at least not for the older viewers, like my age group is expecting Spock to be Nimoy, and Kirk to be Shatner, and not some stretched juveniles from Melrose Place. Not to mention the absurdity to give a ship into the hands of such an extremely young crew and officers.

And Lucas - is a fantastic special effects insider - and one of the worst story tellers known in business.

[Sledgehammer427]

Skybird, your last line had me laughing so hard I was in tears.

But I think in the movie, from what I could assess through the trailers, Kirk takes over Enterprise like his dad did in the Kelvin (trailer 3, note the same black suit)
I did notice that the crew looked a little...young, but in the starfleet, where ANYthing is possible (look at poor ole Chekov, they cast a RUSSIAN on the middle of the cold war in TOS) A young starfleet Cadet may, in a strange twist of Chain of Command, take over a starship. Of course, I don't know wether that would constitute more than taking it to drydock and getting a new captain, possibly a temporary command order while they find one...

All in all though, I can't wait for it to come out

[captgeo]

I grew up as a child watching Star Trek, I am looking forward to it . The start of the rebel ( James Dean of the future) Kirk.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

Skybird, your last line had me laughing so hard I was in tears.

What's so funny about Lucas, or have I messed up some language thing again?

[Sledgehammer427]

And Lucas - is a fantastic special effects insider - and one of the worst story tellers known in business.

that's like saying "He's a great musician, but he's butt-ugly and can't tune his guitar." at least to me anyways

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

that's like saying "He's a great musician, but he's butt-ugly and can't tune his guitar." at least to me anyways

I disagree. For star Wars IV, under his supervision some new camera technology was developed, and he always establishes close monitoring of FX technicians working under his command. He surely knows what can be done with visual effects and computer graphics, and certainly knows a bit on how to do that, as he also knows how to run his busines and make a fortune. That does not chnage the fact that the Star Wars movies - like them or not like them or like the first three and dislike the last three - have a very simple, almost naive narration structure and the stories they tell are stories very often told before. Es special as the movies are, effects-wise, as simplistic they are by their content, and as flat they are by their narration structure.

To be clear, I like SW 4-6, and respect the visual graphics in SW 1-3, but dislike 1-3 nevertheless. SW 5 to me is the best and most atmospheric, tense narration of all the six movies. There is a huge difference between LOTR and SW, imo: in SW, FX dominate the story and almost flatten it, in LOTR the FX serve the story and adequately, not dominantly, transports and supports the narration. In SW story is close to nothing and effects are everything, especially in the new trilogy, while in LOTR both story and effects are solid.

[surf_ten]

My friends and I are psyched about the new trek. Zachery Quinto ( Slyar from Heroes ) looks like he has spock down pat. I didn't even know they were filming a new trek until I heard about it a month ago. I thought the francised pretty died with the flop Enterprise series.

As for Lucas, the Episode III DVD I received for Christmas two years ago is still in it's shrink wrap. Jar Jar binks and the horrible Anakin Skywalker actor ruined the prequels for me. The prequels had amazing effects, but that was about it.

as in a previous post,
The New Star Trek Website is here
http://www.startrekmovie.com/

[SteamWake]

Wow fourth page already...

Anyhow heres some stuff for you star trek fans

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[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Wow fourth page already...

Anyhow heres some stuff for you star trek fans

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Thats classic! "COMMANDER WORF'S HEAD LOOKS LIKE A FANNY"

[Geno_Mariner]

I'm definitely watching it on Monday, dragged a friend along after we compromised that I'll watch X-men at the movies with her next time (I like x-men, it's cool, I guess, lol).

I haven't watched Star Trek before but seen bits and pieces of it from when Oberon linked me a few vids. Will be grabbing the DVD's too.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Geno_Mariner

I haven't watched Star Trek before

Holy smokes !

[Geno_Mariner]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Holy smokes !

Because mum won't let me, but now I'm 20, I can watch anything, haha. I've always wanted to watch it.
I got to watch the entire Star Wars in one sitting with a best friend since she's bought the entire series in one shopping, lol