"We are being visited." - Page 2

TDK1044 · 04-24-09, 05:35 AM

We have proof that beings from the planet teleprompter were instrumental in getting him elected.

Skybird · 04-24-09, 05:49 AM

Well said, Platapus. I also confess to "I do not know". Any theory and probability calculation saying howlikely or unlikely life in the universe, or visits on Earth, are, is simply this: theory. It could be. Or not. We just do not know for sure, and no probability calculation will change that.

Or in the language of quantum physics, the wave function still has not collapsed. We are like the scientist in front of Schroedinger's box who still has not opened it to see if the cat is still alive, or not.

TDK1044 · 04-24-09, 06:00 AM

Oh, I have no doubt at all that we have been visited. I saw a UFO up close and personal in the Summer of 1989. I was only about 500 feet from this thing and I knew exactly what it was.

It's a personal experience though. Impossible to prove. Even if I'd shot video of it, there would have been accusations that I'd faked it somehow.

In the end, it's just an incredible personal experience.

Letum · 04-24-09, 06:50 AM

I don't like the "I don't know" stance. I think we can do better than that.
If I throw a dice, I could say "I just don't know" if I will throw a 6, but it would
be better, given the evidence to say there is a 1 in 6 chance I will throw a 6.

Clearly we can't give a precise probability to claims that aliens are visiting
Earth, but we can decide if it is more likely than not, even if we are working
with very little evidence one way or the other.

There is no need to jump on the fence every time a little doubt shows up.

Platapus · 04-24-09, 09:53 AM

Here is something to make my Tin Foil stock go up.

When Jimmy Carter was campaigning for President, one of his "promises" (snicker: promises from a politician

sorry) was that if elected President, he would open up the government files on UFOs to the public.

Quote:

"One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists."

Good, Timothy (1989) "Above Top Secret: The Worldwide U.F.O. Cover-Up" Quill Publishers.

He was elected President, and after being read on to all the programs the President gets, decided not to open up any more files, citing national security.

Platapus · 04-24-09, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

I don't like the "I don't know" stance. I think we can do better than that.
...

There is no need to jump on the fence every time a little doubt shows up.

Yes, but if we don't know, we need to be honest and say we don't know. Just admitting that we don't know does not mean that we won't strive for more information or that we are giving up.

I guess it would be more correct to say "we don't know yet"

I can live with that also

Jimbuna · 04-24-09, 01:10 PM

So what's being kept hidden in Area 51?

FIREWALL · 04-24-09, 01:19 PM

While everybody is trying to see what is going on in AREA 51...

It's all being done out in the open somewhere else where nobody's looking.

Platapus · 04-24-09, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

So what's being kept hidden in Area 51?

I think you are overlooking a significant point.

If you accept that there is an Area 51, what are the other 50 areas?

And what are they doing *there*?

Dowly · 04-24-09, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I think you are overlooking a significant point.

If you accept that there is an Area 51, what are the other 50 areas?

And what are they doing *there*?

I believe 'Watertown' is the official name for Area 51, dating back to 1950's. The name 'Area 51' was introduced few years later when the government, army or whoever seized lands around it.

EDIT: Sorry, it's now called 'Air Force Flight Test Center, Detachment 3'.

AVGWarhawk · 04-24-09, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I think you are overlooking a significant point.

If you accept that there is an Area 51, what are the other 50 areas?

And what are they doing *there*?

Area 49 is Suomi Finland.

FIREWALL · 04-24-09, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I think you are overlooking a significant point.

If you accept that there is an Area 51, what are the other 50 areas?

And what are they doing *there*?

Laundering or wasteing US taxpayer hard earned money.

Jimbuna · 04-24-09, 02:24 PM

Could be where they filmed the moon landing

AVGWarhawk · 04-24-09, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Could be where they filmed the moon landing

There has been speculation Jim

Platapus · 04-24-09, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Could be where they filmed the moon landing

Already been exposed

04-24-09, 05:49 AM	#17
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Well said, Platapus. I also confess to "I do not know". Any theory and probability calculation saying howlikely or unlikely life in the universe, or visits on Earth, are, is simply this: theory. It could be. Or not. We just do not know for sure, and no probability calculation will change that. Or in the language of quantum physics, the wave function still has not collapsed. We are like the scientist in front of Schroedinger's box who still has not opened it to see if the cat is still alive, or not. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-24-09, 06:50 AM	#19
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I don't like the "I don't know" stance. I think we can do better than that. If I throw a dice, I could say "I just don't know" if I will throw a 6, but it would be better, given the evidence to say there is a 1 in 6 chance I will throw a 6. Clearly we can't give a precise probability to claims that aliens are visiting Earth, but we can decide if it is more likely than not, even if we are working with very little evidence one way or the other. There is no need to jump on the fence every time a little doubt shows up. __________________

04-24-09, 01:10 PM	#22
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	So what's being kept hidden in Area 51? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-24-09, 01:19 PM	#23
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	While everybody is trying to see what is going on in AREA 51... It's all being done out in the open somewhere else where nobody's looking. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

04-24-09, 02:24 PM	#28
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Could be where they filmed the moon landing __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-24-09, 05:35 AM	#16
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	We have proof that beings from the planet teleprompter were instrumental in getting him elected.

04-24-09, 06:00 AM	#18
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Oh, I have no doubt at all that we have been visited. I saw a UFO up close and personal in the Summer of 1989. I was only about 500 feet from this thing and I knew exactly what it was. It's a personal experience though. Impossible to prove. Even if I'd shot video of it, there would have been accusations that I'd faked it somehow. In the end, it's just an incredible personal experience.