is it simple to adjust ship models?

03-01-09, 07:48 PM

what i mean is, can you easily move things that are missplaced?

i wanted to fix a ship that i noticed had all its support cables out of place. i dont mean rerigging the whole ship but some off the cables goes into the deck and some go to the cleats or even in one case the cable goes through the hull outside the ship lol.

here are some pictures showing what im talking about.

http://gallery.filefront.com/keakar/162434/

if someone is willing to take the time to teach me how to do it, i would like to learn how to fix things like this.

Nisgeis · 03-02-09, 04:39 AM

The way you'd move them depends on how they are set up in the game. If the wire model is seperate, or attached to a mast that is in the wrong place, then it can be easily moved in S3D. If the mast is OK, but the end of the wires are wrong, then you'd need to export them, reposition them in a 3D program and then re-import them. The wires are two planes at right angles and should only need to have the vertexes at the end moved.

03-02-09, 11:21 AM

well that ship is the NKMCS_Zinbu and many of its cables are off but i tried to move the zinbu cables with s3d but couldnt figure out how to do it.

the NPL_Horai just has both support cables missing on one side and i was going to try to fix that one too.

i never used a 3D program so i guess i would have to figure out how to do it first.

what is an easy 3D program to use for people who arent very smart?

Nisgeis · 03-03-09, 06:52 AM

They all pretty much do the same things on a basic level, but some specialise in certain areas. I have heard some good things about Wings 3D, but then people seem to switch to another 3D program after a while of using that. I've never used it myself, so I don't know how good it is. Then there is blender, which is open source and free (not sure if Wings 3D is free or not). Blender is very powerful and a lot of people use it and there is a lot of help available for it. Then there's 3DS Max, which is available as a trial for a month, but then it locks you out and it is very expensive to buy. Max has some very good tutorials, which you can work through and get a good grounding in 3D.

I think there's milk shape too, but that's not free either, but it's much less than Max.

Perhaps you could take a look at blender to start with?

03-03-09, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

They all pretty much do the same things on a basic level, but some specialise in certain areas. I have heard some good things about Wings 3D, but then people seem to switch to another 3D program after a while of using that. I've never used it myself, so I don't know how good it is. Then there is blender, which is open source and free (not sure if Wings 3D is free or not). Blender is very powerful and a lot of people use it and there is a lot of help available for it. Then there's 3DS Max, which is available as a trial for a month, but then it locks you out and it is very expensive to buy. Max has some very good tutorials, which you can work through and get a good grounding in 3D.

I think there's milk shape too, but that's not free either, but it's much less than Max.

Perhaps you could take a look at blender to start with?

yes i think blender is in my price range

(im on a very small fixed budget) and it sounds like i could get help with it.

im assuming the 3ds max tuts are close to the way blender works too or are they all very different?

peabody · 03-03-09, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WEBSTER

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

They all pretty much do the same things on a basic level, but some specialise in certain areas. I have heard some good things about Wings 3D, but then people seem to switch to another 3D program after a while of using that. I've never used it myself, so I don't know how good it is. Then there is blender, which is open source and free (not sure if Wings 3D is free or not). Blender is very powerful and a lot of people use it and there is a lot of help available for it. Then there's 3DS Max, which is available as a trial for a month, but then it locks you out and it is very expensive to buy. Max has some very good tutorials, which you can work through and get a good grounding in 3D.

I think there's milk shape too, but that's not free either, but it's much less than Max.

Perhaps you could take a look at blender to start with?

yes i think blender is in my price range

(im on a very small fixed budget) and it sounds like i could get help with it.

im assuming the 3ds max tuts are close to the way blender works too or are they all very different?

From playing around with Blender a little bit I have found the biggest problem to be that they change the interface with each release. So you try to do a tutorial and can't find the button, or menu selection mentioned because they changed it. But there are tons of tutorials for it, some better than other or course.

Peabody

Wolfling04 · 04-24-09, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

I think there's milk shape too, but that's not free either, but it's much less than Max.

I just visited Milk shape's website, I can download their 3d program for free it appears is this correct

edit: i just noticed there is a 25$ activation fee. Is this a good program to run if you want to build ships and objects?

04-25-09, 02:05 AM

Hitman's TBT is ofcourse my entrypoint for TBT. The old Betterscope images is what i use as periscope and observationsscope.

03-01-09, 07:48 PM	#1
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	is it simple to adjust ship models? what i mean is, can you easily move things that are missplaced? i wanted to fix a ship that i noticed had all its support cables out of place. i dont mean rerigging the whole ship but some off the cables goes into the deck and some go to the cleats or even in one case the cable goes through the hull outside the ship lol. here are some pictures showing what im talking about. http://gallery.filefront.com/keakar/162434/ if someone is willing to take the time to teach me how to do it, i would like to learn how to fix things like this.

03-02-09, 04:39 AM	#2
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	The way you'd move them depends on how they are set up in the game. If the wire model is seperate, or attached to a mast that is in the wrong place, then it can be easily moved in S3D. If the mast is OK, but the end of the wires are wrong, then you'd need to export them, reposition them in a 3D program and then re-import them. The wires are two planes at right angles and should only need to have the vertexes at the end moved. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

03-03-09, 06:52 AM	#4
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	They all pretty much do the same things on a basic level, but some specialise in certain areas. I have heard some good things about Wings 3D, but then people seem to switch to another 3D program after a while of using that. I've never used it myself, so I don't know how good it is. Then there is blender, which is open source and free (not sure if Wings 3D is free or not). Blender is very powerful and a lot of people use it and there is a lot of help available for it. Then there's 3DS Max, which is available as a trial for a month, but then it locks you out and it is very expensive to buy. Max has some very good tutorials, which you can work through and get a good grounding in 3D. I think there's milk shape too, but that's not free either, but it's much less than Max. Perhaps you could take a look at blender to start with? __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

03-02-09, 11:21 AM	#3
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	well that ship is the NKMCS_Zinbu and many of its cables are off but i tried to move the zinbu cables with s3d but couldnt figure out how to do it. the NPL_Horai just has both support cables missing on one side and i was going to try to fix that one too. i never used a 3D program so i guess i would have to figure out how to do it first. what is an easy 3D program to use for people who arent very smart?

04-25-09, 02:05 AM	#8
Mav87th Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Hitman's TBT is ofcourse my entrypoint for TBT. The old Betterscope images is what i use as periscope and observationsscope.