'Octomom' Gets Death Threats

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

This whole story reminds me of comedian Dennis Miller's line about a similar multiple birth incident involving a fertility clinic;

"It's a vagina, it's not a clown car."

[Skybird]

If she is normal, she may not deserve death threads, but she surely deserve a spanking. but I also can not rule out that she is psychologically serverly handicapped (="gaga"). In both cases it should be checked if it is a good idea and reasonable to leave the kids with her.

I think, sie hat wirklich ein Rad ab.

[Spike88]

She does have a total of 14. I can see where this can anger people, because she's taking other peoples money just because she decided she wanted 14 kids.

[Zachstar]

The good news is this is looking more and more like CPS is going to step in.

The talk is the house they are living in now is nowhere near equipped to handle 14. And while this supposed offer from some dumbass farmer in my view to take her in might happen. Something tells me this is not going to end the way she expected.

[Platapus]

Hey all the right-to-lifers should be happy with this women. She had six fertilized embryos. Her religious/moral beliefs would not allow her to let them die as they were, in her mind, already six human beings.

That's why she had all six implanted.

At least that is what she said during the TV interview last week.

Clearly she should not have had all six eggs fertilized in the first place.

But once they are fertilized, what would a right-to-lifer want her to do?

Should she have been "forced" to give some/all of her fertilized embryos to some one else?

Should she have aborted the procedure and allowed six human beings to be, as some say, "murdered"?

Would not a right-to-lifer insist that she carry the six embryos?

An interesting moral delemna. And one that may challenge some of the beliefs of right-to-lifers.

[Spike88]

Originally Posted by Skybird

If she is normal, she may not deserve death threads, but she surely deserve a spanking. but I also can not rule out that she is psychologically serverly handicapped (="gaga"). In both cases it should be checked if it is a good idea and reasonable to leave the kids with her.

I think, sie hat wirklich ein Rad ab.

Three of her kids are mentally handicapped.

[Skybird]

A dog that constantly chases it's tail, sooner or later falls to the ground, dizzy. Intellectual argument is very much the same when being taken too far. A single cell is never a human being- just the idea that there could be a human being. Potential, not realisation. Would anybody argue that the idea of having a baby ten years in the future is the same like actually having that baby? Hardly. And if so, it would be insane.

Without doubt there is a point when a cellular mass no longer is a cellular mass, but features characteristics you cannot deny to be that of a human. But not a single cell, or even a dozen cells, or several hundreds. That is totally absurd. It is not even a tadpole. It's hysteric emotions, and that's all it is.

[A Very Super Market]

Yeah, that really ticks me off. This woman has no sense of responsibility, yet she is allowed to raise 14 kids, three of which need constant care?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Spike88

Three of her kids are mentally handicapped.

My parents knew an old colleague of my father, which he knows since the 70s. He later married, and it was a women totally nuts about the idea of having a baby, a motheranimal fulfilling every cliche you could have about that. I mean she really was hysteric about the idea. But she did not become pregnant, and they started to try and went to doctors and laboratories and did the whole program inside out and back and forth and then return to beginning and starting again, ten years or so. Finally, she became pregnant when she was 44, but after just some years the daughter turned out to be emotionally handicapped, and dysfunctional in her social behavior, now going to a special school, but being handicapped for the rest of her life. Doctors say it could be that the mother was too old, or a medical consequence. The mother and the father have a marriage in ruins, no money left, both trying to avoid final contemplation on their status by having developed several absurd hobbies and most hilarious behavior patterns, really. He once earned good money - he know is on social wellfare.

If it shouldn't be, then sometimes you're better off if you simply accept that, and let it be to keep on trying. the sins of the parents in this example will be payed for by other people financing them, and the daughter pays with her life as well, will ever stay dependant, will always need help, and will never be normal but will be seen as a "freak".

Thanks, but no thanks. Fanatism always is a bad thing.

[Spike88]

Originally Posted by Skybird

My parents knew an old colleague of my father, which he knows since the 70s. He later married, and it was a women totally nuts about the idea of having a baby, a motheranimal fulfilling every cliche you could have about that. I mean she really was hysteric about the idea. But she did not become pregnant, and they started to try and went to doctors and laboratories and did the whole program inside out and back and forth and then return to beginning and starting again, ten years or so. Finally, she became pregnant when she was 44, but after just some years the daughter turned out to be emotionally handicapped, and dysfunctional in her social behavior, now going to a special school, but being handicapped for the rest of her life. Doctors say it could be that the mother was too old, or a medical consequence. The mother and the father have a marriage in ruins, no money left, both trying to avoid final contemplation on their status by having developed several absurd hobbies and most hilarious behavior patterns, really. He once earned good money - he know is on social wellfare.

If it shouldn't be, then sometimes you're better off if you simply accept that, and let it be to keep on trying. the sins of the parents in this example will be payed for by other people financing them, and the daughter pays with her life as well, will ever stay dependant, will always need help, and will never be normal but will be seen as a "freak".

Thanks, but no thanks. Fanatism always is a bad thing.

Your story reminds me of a show I watched. It was about women who wanted babies but could not have them due to whatever reasons that went too drastic measures to get a baby. From stealing infants from hospitals, to beating up a woman in a walmart parking lot to take her baby, to the worst, killing a lady and two of her children and then stealing her unborn baby from the body. Luckily 1 of the children and the unborn baby ended up living.

[Zachstar]

I guess the word "Adoption" never pops into these people's minds eh?

Despite the rumors there is nowhere near enough parents to care for how many children are left for adoption.

But to a nutjob I guess they don't want a child from one of the have nots.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

What no one has told you yet is that she knowingly, with 6 other children already, went to a fertility clinic and had a doctor basically knock her up medically.

-S

Could he not have refused to do that?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Could he not have refused to do that?

The doctor is the one I want to hear from. I would like to know what the ethics of the profession say about this? I think the doctor acted irresponsibly and I wonder if he violated any laws/ethics that could threaten his career?

[Spike88]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

I guess the word "Adoption" never pops into these people's minds eh?

Despite the rumors there is nowhere near enough parents to care for how many children are left for adoption.

But to a nutjob I guess they don't want a child from one of the have nots.

Most of these women want the babies to strengthen their relationship and go to extreme measures to make it seem like they're pregnant, from wearing fat suits to actually getting fat.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Platapus

The doctor is the one I want to hear from. I would like to know what the ethics of the profession say about this? I think the doctor acted irresponsibly and I wonder if he violated any laws/ethics that could threaten his career?

Good point...I wonder