Greetings - Page 2

Red Heat · 01-12-09, 06:55 AM

9emini...Welcome aboard!
Here in the Subsim the people are very friendly and give all suport about every thing about the game...the only thing you must do its explain correctly what the problem is...

nikbear · 01-12-09, 07:00 AM

Welcome aboard 9emini

Ping Panther · 01-12-09, 08:50 AM

Welcome 9emini. Your questions are welcome here as well.
Just remember, you only get 3 wishes or 20 questions, whichever comes first. Then you are on your own.

Good hunting!

Weiss Pinguin · 01-12-09, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

They will die if they get too tired whilst fixing damage and the compartment floods though.

lol, I guess that's what I was thinking of. :p

Laufen zum Ziel · 01-12-09, 02:53 PM

Welcome. Check out the Silent Hunter Addict site
for every thing concerning SHIII (GWX) Here.

Be a fan of the Great BALZ & read past adventures
Here.

9emini · 01-13-09, 04:34 PM

Cheers for all the help and greets y'all - I'm pleased to report that I have sunk my first cargo ship! What a feelin'... on my first patrol n'all... I used 3 torps in a 'fan' shot from 600m in the dark - surfacing just before I fired so I could get the watch officer to get the range (hard to measure range manually while submerged in the dark!). Am now tailin' a ship on my second patrol which I'm hoping to sink before sundown in about 6 hours

. Wazoo's guide rocks!

Weiss Pinguin · 01-13-09, 04:38 PM

Great feeling watching your first kill sink into the waves.

Be more aggressive!

Robert Fulton · 01-13-09, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 9emini

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Just starting learning SH3 over past few days and am persisting with 'initiation by fire' (i.e. realism = 100%) despite some frustration. Never tried a sim before....

This is most impressive. I am also a rookie on my first career, but I am running at 50% despite having had some time as a skipper in Aces of the Deep.

We are both fortunate to have found subsim; the captains here are skilled and generous with their time.

9emini · 01-19-09, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Weiß Pinguin

Great feeling watching your first kill sink into the waves.

Be more aggressive!

I'm trying! Had to begin a new career, as I 'enjoyed' my first destroyer encounter yesterday, which annihilated the boat during my 5th(?) patrol! Today's first new patrol went real well - 5 torpedoes, 4 kills! I really feel like I'm getting the hang of the TDC...

Couple of questions have arisen I'm afraid: can destroying cargo on board a cargo ship using (don't laugh! It's all I've got this early on!) the flak cannon, help contribute to its sinking? Am I right in guessing that cargo is the _only_ thing worth 'flakking' on a cargo ship? Flak shells (AP) don't seem capable of puncturing hull or bridge etc...

Given I don't want the first destroyer I see to end my career (again!), what can be done on encountering one? I dove to 100m, changing course 90deg just after I submerged, after it opened fire at me on surface. It kept pinging me and I wasn't sure how to respond. Silent running? Sit still? Hmmm... one of the great arts to be learned in SH3 I'm guessing!

Oh - and just how many senior seamen (50 renown) are we supposed to be allowed to purchase before the first patrol? I've discoved a "feature" in the 'crew' screen which keeps replacing a purchased senior seaman in the list of 'crewmen in base'. So I began my first patrol with 14 of the b**gers :-) . This 'feature' also permutes the list of officers, so that an officer with any given combination of quals (as long as one is watch/flak/gun, and there are either 2 or 3 [edit: or 1] quals) can be made to appear. All this is acheived by clicking between 'award' and 'barracks' on the 'crew' screen.

Hi Robert - thanks for the ego massage ;-) . Hope your career is continuing, unlike mine!

9emini · 01-20-09, 08:58 PM

In an effort to encourage replies to my above questions, I thought I'd bump them and simultaneously update my progress on the new campaign. Only sunk 1 merchant ship on patrols 2 and 3 before earning enough renown to score a VIIb (IIRC...). Its deck gun completely rocks! I took out 11 merchant ships with it on my 4th patrol and have just begun my 5th journey, to the hitherto unvisited waters southwest of the UK. My first kill on the 5th was a neutral merchant (whoops! I'm used to engaging vessels after seeing red markers on map, not coming across them out of the blue and having to check their flag)! I realise now that the sooner this sub is acquired the better, so spending renown on crew is not something I'll be doing during future careers. IIRC I get 1680 renown or something at career start as I finished the tuts with flying colours, so hopefully after first patrol the VIIb will be within reach (after my inevitable death on current campaign).

A Very Super Market · 01-20-09, 09:13 PM

Ahhh, I can barely remember how stock worked....

Flak gun will do nothing against any ship you will be trying to sink. They work on PT boats, but they'll rip you a new one if given the chance.

Always go silent when encountering destroyers. Stay away from shallow waters. Make sure you turn off silent running after you're clear. It'd be wrong to give you a cheat sheet on how to evade destroyers, so you're on your own with that. Just remember that stock AI is a LOT easier than GWX or any other super-mod

It barely matters in the rank of the crew, so buy as many as you want. I'd say you wasted quite a bit of renown in that purchase though.

The constant cycling of the officers is perhaps an exploit, but I highly doubt that there were only 5 different prospective U-boot officers at one time, and there were definitely much more than 10 seamen or petty officers wanting to sign up. Whatever you choose.

I don't think you should be trying a super-mod just yet. Get a feel for the game first, maybe until you get all the medals or something. In the meantime, you should install SH3 commander, it will give you a lot of different options to mess around with, and make managing your crew a lot easier.

Keelbuster · 01-20-09, 10:58 PM

9emini,

if you're still playing stock i would advise you to install a mod asap. Mind you, I started on stock, and it sucked me in - i remember those black contact lines on the nav map for sonar contacts. Anyway, i can't see any reason not to get up to speed - the modding community has gone apesh#t with this stuff, and it's way worth indulging in the product of their efforts. I've played a few mod packages, but I'm pretty happy with the GWX package. Plus a few extras.

Anyway, welcome aboard mate. Sounds like you're getting sucked into this submarining business just like we were.

Cheers!

RoaldLarsen · 01-20-09, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 9emini

I'm trying! Had to begin a new career, as I 'enjoyed' my first destroyer encounter yesterday, which annihilated the boat during my 5th(?) patrol! Today's first new patrol went real well - 5 torpedoes, 4 kills! I really feel like I'm getting the hang of the TDC...

That's really quite good for a newbie! I don't think my early careers in Ducks were that successful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9emini

Couple of questions have arisen I'm afraid: can destroying cargo on board a cargo ship using (don't laugh! It's all I've got this early on!) the flak cannon, help contribute to its sinking? Am I right in guessing that cargo is the _only_ thing worth 'flakking' on a cargo ship? Flak shells (AP) don't seem capable of puncturing hull or bridge etc...

I can't say for sure that blowing up deck cargo cannot contribute to sinking a metal ship, but if it does, it is a very small contribution. You might want to try out your flak gun on a fishing boat or a tugboat. It might also be useful if you are ever silly enough to have a gunfight with a PT boat or an armed trawler. I woudn't advise doing this without a deck gun, though, and even then, it is safer to evade.

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Originally Posted by 9emini

Given I don't want the first destroyer I see to end my career (again!), what can be done on encountering one? I dove to 100m, changing course 90deg just after I submerged, after it opened fire at me on surface. It kept pinging me and I wasn't sure how to respond. Silent running? Sit still? Hmmm... one of the great arts to be learned in SH3 I'm guessing!

Thr best way to avoid having a destoyer sink you is to prevent him from ever detecting you. Once he has seen you - HIDE! You can't outrun a destroyer on the surface (with enough of a lead, you can run away from trawlers and corvettes), so dive.
If the destroyer can't hear you, either because he is moving fast or pointed away from you, you can and should move fast underwater, away from where he last knew you to be. If he could be listening to you (he's pointed towards you, not too far away, and not moving fast) then you must go silent. Drop engine revs to 100 or lower (usually 2 knots), rig for silent running, turn with no more than 10 degrees rudder, and try to keep your bow or stern pointed at him to reduce your reflective profile. (Hard to do at slow speed and little rudder.) All this time you want to be diving as deep as the ocean floor and your pressure hull will let you.

Turning right after you dive will slow your boat significantly. You don't want to slow down until just before he can start listening to you. You want to put as much possible distance between you and the location at which you dived, because he'll start his search at your last known location. So, either turn sharply just before you go silent, or turn slowly after you go silent.

Turning right after you dive can work against aircraft, if they have already dropped their first pattern. The time they take turning around for the next pass is usually enough for a sharp turn to take you out of harm's way.

If a surface ship lines you up for a depth charging (you hear him pick up speed at close range, coming right toward you), alter course and speed to try to evade the bombs. Do this only if you are fairly sure he has your postion - otherwise you have just given yourself away. The deeper you are, the more time you have to get out of the way of the depth charges.

Once you get them, decoys can be planted at places you expect him to search for you. These can give you a few more seconds to get farther away.

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Originally Posted by 9emini

Oh - and just how many senior seamen (50 renown) are we supposed to be allowed to purchase before the first patrol? I've discoved a "feature" in the 'crew' screen which keeps replacing a purchased senior seaman in the list of 'crewmen in base'. So I began my first patrol with 14 of the b**gers :-) . This 'feature' also permutes the list of officers, so that an officer with any given combination of quals (as long as one is watch/flak/gun, and there are either 2 or 3 [edit: or 1] quals) can be made to appear. All this is acheived by clicking between 'award' and 'barracks' on the 'crew' screen.

Well-known exploit. Generally the renown cost is a pretty good indicator of the return on investment. I prefer to upgrade systems on the boat first, before upgrading crew or petty officers. Sometimes a good officer can be worth the renown cost. I usually upgrade radar detectors first, then batteries, decoys, anti-sonar coating, engine, hydrophones, conning tower, flak guns and finally sonar and radar. The general pattern is defensive stuff before offensive stuff.

mookiemookie · 01-21-09, 12:16 AM

The best advice I can give about being pinged (early war, mind you) is to go to flank speed and present the smallest angle you can towards the DD pinging you. You can go to flank speed for a few seconds in order to get your ass-end towards the DD, as they can't use their hydrophones when pinging...don't worry about your "stealth meter" turning red while doing this. Once you get your butt towards them and you go back to slow speed, it'll quickly go back to green. Just make sure that you don't go any more than 2 knots (unless you're pulling an evasion move as described above) and try to get to at least 100 meters deep and you shouldn't have any problems in early war.

After late '41/early '42...well, the rules change. I'll let you figure that out for yourself.

9emini · 02-19-09, 08:35 PM

Well, my stock days may be over: I've just joined the bottom feeders during my 12th patrol during which I left St Nazaire for the first time (after some trouble finding the place...). 300 kilotons sunk in total woohoo. I came across a convoy at night in my assigned grid square, but its warship escort made depressingly short work of me. It all went bad when I submerged to avoid being spotted (about 3km from nearest ship) and promptly received a "We've been spotted, Sir!" message. Guess they heard me... I then surfaced to take on the Flower (?) Corvette racing toward me with my deck gun but quickly received some damage which I elected to repair UNDERwater :-) . Dropped to 100m but was soon done-in by depth charges. It's quite eerie (and terrifying) using the 'scope to peer at the surface while 100m down and seeing your nemises travelling above you with barrel after barrel pouring out their rear.

01-12-09, 06:55 AM	#16
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	9emini...Welcome aboard! Here in the Subsim the people are very friendly and give all suport about every thing about the game...the only thing you must do its explain correctly what the problem is... __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

01-12-09, 07:00 AM	#17
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard 9emini __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-12-09, 02:53 PM	#20
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	Welcome. Check out the Silent Hunter Addict site for every thing concerning SHIII (GWX) Here. Be a fan of the Great BALZ & read past adventures Here. __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

01-13-09, 04:38 PM	#22
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Great feeling watching your first kill sink into the waves. Be more aggressive! __________________

01-20-09, 09:13 PM	#26
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ahhh, I can barely remember how stock worked.... Flak gun will do nothing against any ship you will be trying to sink. They work on PT boats, but they'll rip you a new one if given the chance. Always go silent when encountering destroyers. Stay away from shallow waters. Make sure you turn off silent running after you're clear. It'd be wrong to give you a cheat sheet on how to evade destroyers, so you're on your own with that. Just remember that stock AI is a LOT easier than GWX or any other super-mod It barely matters in the rank of the crew, so buy as many as you want. I'd say you wasted quite a bit of renown in that purchase though. The constant cycling of the officers is perhaps an exploit, but I highly doubt that there were only 5 different prospective U-boot officers at one time, and there were definitely much more than 10 seamen or petty officers wanting to sign up. Whatever you choose. I don't think you should be trying a super-mod just yet. Get a feel for the game first, maybe until you get all the medals or something. In the meantime, you should install SH3 commander, it will give you a lot of different options to mess around with, and make managing your crew a lot easier. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

01-12-09, 08:50 AM	#18
Ping Panther Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: the armpit of the Mid-Atlantic / Quadrant CA42 Posts: 262 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Welcome 9emini. Your questions are welcome here as well. Just remember, you only get 3 wishes or 20 questions, whichever comes first. Then you are on your own. Good hunting!

01-13-09, 04:34 PM	#21
9emini Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Aboard the Galaga Posts: 37 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Cheers for all the help and greets y'all - I'm pleased to report that I have sunk my first cargo ship! What a feelin'... on my first patrol n'all... I used 3 torps in a 'fan' shot from 600m in the dark - surfacing just before I fired so I could get the watch officer to get the range (hard to measure range manually while submerged in the dark!). Am now tailin' a ship on my second patrol which I'm hoping to sink before sundown in about 6 hours . Wazoo's guide rocks!

01-20-09, 08:58 PM	#25
9emini Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Aboard the Galaga Posts: 37 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	In an effort to encourage replies to my above questions, I thought I'd bump them and simultaneously update my progress on the new campaign. Only sunk 1 merchant ship on patrols 2 and 3 before earning enough renown to score a VIIb (IIRC...). Its deck gun completely rocks! I took out 11 merchant ships with it on my 4th patrol and have just begun my 5th journey, to the hitherto unvisited waters southwest of the UK. My first kill on the 5th was a neutral merchant (whoops! I'm used to engaging vessels after seeing red markers on map, not coming across them out of the blue and having to check their flag)! I realise now that the sooner this sub is acquired the better, so spending renown on crew is not something I'll be doing during future careers. IIRC I get 1680 renown or something at career start as I finished the tuts with flying colours, so hopefully after first patrol the VIIb will be within reach (after my inevitable death on current campaign).

01-20-09, 10:58 PM	#27
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	9emini, if you're still playing stock i would advise you to install a mod asap. Mind you, I started on stock, and it sucked me in - i remember those black contact lines on the nav map for sonar contacts. Anyway, i can't see any reason not to get up to speed - the modding community has gone apesh#t with this stuff, and it's way worth indulging in the product of their efforts. I've played a few mod packages, but I'm pretty happy with the GWX package. Plus a few extras. Anyway, welcome aboard mate. Sounds like you're getting sucked into this submarining business just like we were. Cheers! __________________

01-21-09, 12:16 AM	#29
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	The best advice I can give about being pinged (early war, mind you) is to go to flank speed and present the smallest angle you can towards the DD pinging you. You can go to flank speed for a few seconds in order to get your ass-end towards the DD, as they can't use their hydrophones when pinging...don't worry about your "stealth meter" turning red while doing this. Once you get your butt towards them and you go back to slow speed, it'll quickly go back to green. Just make sure that you don't go any more than 2 knots (unless you're pulling an evasion move as described above) and try to get to at least 100 meters deep and you shouldn't have any problems in early war. After late '41/early '42...well, the rules change. I'll let you figure that out for yourself. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

02-19-09, 08:35 PM	#30
9emini Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Aboard the Galaga Posts: 37 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Well, my stock days may be over: I've just joined the bottom feeders during my 12th patrol during which I left St Nazaire for the first time (after some trouble finding the place...). 300 kilotons sunk in total woohoo. I came across a convoy at night in my assigned grid square, but its warship escort made depressingly short work of me. It all went bad when I submerged to avoid being spotted (about 3km from nearest ship) and promptly received a "We've been spotted, Sir!" message. Guess they heard me... I then surfaced to take on the Flower (?) Corvette racing toward me with my deck gun but quickly received some damage which I elected to repair UNDERwater :-) . Dropped to 100m but was soon done-in by depth charges. It's quite eerie (and terrifying) using the 'scope to peer at the surface while 100m down and seeing your nemises travelling above you with barrel after barrel pouring out their rear.