Obama picks man with no experience for CIA - Page 2

AntEater · 01-09-09, 05:04 AM

And W. was prepared for national security policy by what experience?
Managing a baseball team?
The Texas air national guard?
Or does he somehow telepathically share the experiences of his father?
What previous experience did Reagan have?
Hollywood?

The only presidents with real experience in security/intelligence matters was Bush Senior.

Kapitan_Phillips · 01-09-09, 06:48 AM

Just let him get on with it for christ sake. He was voted into office, so has the same right as anyone to be there. If a terrorist attack is planned, there's very little to be done to stop it, short of completely closing off everything and waiting. These people arent ones who would be intimidated by the CIA or the FBI or the NSA, the simple fact of the matter is, there's only so much you can do.

A good analogy might be: If you step on one cockroach, three more take its place.

Dowly · 01-09-09, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Just let him get on with it for christ sake. He was voted into office, so has the same right as anyone to be there. If a terrorist attack is planned, there's very little to be done to stop it, short of completely closing off everything and waiting. These people arent ones who would be intimidated by the CIA or the FBI or the NSA, the simple fact of the matter is, there's only so much you can do.

A good analogy might be: If you step on one cockroach, three more take its place.

The Funky Ferret agrees with this post!

August · 01-09-09, 08:13 AM

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Won't you all be disappointed of Obama is a good President, or the CIA director doesn't get us "attacked in 6 months". Some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves....

No Enigma I won't be disappointed. I won't because this ismy country, my home, and I would never wish for the failure of it's elected government. Unlike the Democrats who practically cheered to every bit of bad news out of Iraq, to every difficulty George Bush experienced.

SteamWake · 01-09-09, 10:08 AM

Isnt this guy another former Clintonista?

Is it just me or do I see a pattern here.

Enigma · 01-09-09, 10:12 AM

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No Enigma I won't be disappointed. I won't because this ismy country, my home, and I would never wish for the failure of it's elected government. Unlike the Democrats who practically cheered to every bit of bad news out of Iraq, to every difficulty George Bush experienced.

Yes, I see how supportive you are of your country, by spewing hatred of some 50% of it's citizens. (I.e= people like me.)

No, the Republicans would neeeever do what those dirty democrats do! I'm really tired of your nanny nanny boo boo tactics. It bores me to death. Moving on.....

August · 01-09-09, 11:46 AM

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No Enigma I won't be disappointed. I won't because this ismy country, my home, and I would never wish for the failure of it's elected government. Unlike the Democrats who practically cheered to every bit of bad news out of Iraq, to every difficulty George Bush experienced.

Yes, I see how supportive you are of your country, by spewing hatred of some 50% of it's citizens. (I.e= people like me.)

No, the Republicans would neeeever do what those dirty democrats do! I'm really tired of your nanny nanny boo boo tactics. It bores me to death. Moving on.....

Apples and oranges. You aren't an elected leader of my country Spanky. Do try to stay on topic...

fatty · 01-09-09, 11:56 AM

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What I learned from the pick is this: We'll be attacked in 6 months.

But I thought seven years of war had made the world such a safer place?

SteamWake · 01-09-09, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

What I learned from the pick is this: We'll be attacked in 6 months.

But I thought seven years of war had made the world such a safer place?

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video0...w.foxnews.com/

Enigma · 01-09-09, 02:58 PM

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Apples and oranges. You aren't an elected leader of my country Spanky. Do try to stay on topic...

Ok, buckwheat.

Aramike · 01-09-09, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AntEater

And W. was prepared for national security policy by what experience?
Managing a baseball team?
The Texas air national guard?
Or does he somehow telepathically share the experiences of his father?
What previous experience did Reagan have?
Hollywood?

The only presidents with real experience in security/intelligence matters was Bush Senior.

In fact, that is true that most US Presidents don't have much experience in the way of national security.

That being said, it is therefore prudent to use historical precedence to predict what any given president may do. Doing so, we see that presidents on the left side of the aisle tend to weaken national security whereas presidents on the right side of the aisle tend to make it a priority.

Therefore, it is not at all unfounded that some people fear what an Obama Administration may do to our intelligence community and armed forces.

I know I do...

fatty · 01-09-09, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

That being said, it is therefore prudent to use historical precedence to predict what any given president may do. Doing so, we see that presidents on the left side of the aisle tend to weaken national security whereas presidents on the right side of the aisle tend to make it a priority.

I'd be interested in hearing you expand on this a little more.

Enigma · 01-10-09, 01:48 AM

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Therefore, it is not at all unfounded that some people fear what an Obama Administration may do to our intelligence community and armed forces.

I know I do...

Wah. I lost. Wah.

Aramike · 01-10-09, 04:35 AM

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That being said, it is therefore prudent to use historical precedence to predict what any given president may do. Doing so, we see that presidents on the left side of the aisle tend to weaken national security whereas presidents on the right side of the aisle tend to make it a priority.

I'd be interested in hearing you expand on this a little more.

No problem. I'll start broadly.

To start, use the chart and statistics provided on this page: http://truthandpolitics.com/military-relative-size.php

Go from Nixon, to Carter, to Reagan, to Bush I, to Clinton, to Bush II and see if you can tell a difference. And, keep in mind that a percentage point isn't just $100.

...that's just military spending and doesn't even account for intel.

Tchocky · 01-10-09, 07:54 AM

Well, GWB has spend massively on the military, and I'd say that he's weakened national security.

It's not like money is a reliable indicator. Military-industrial complexes are hugely wasteful, as are things like the TSA.

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AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And W. was prepared for national security policy by what experience? Managing a baseball team? The Texas air national guard? Or does he somehow telepathically share the experiences of his father? What previous experience did Reagan have? Hollywood? The only presidents with real experience in security/intelligence matters was Bush Senior. __________________

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Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Just let him get on with it for christ sake. He was voted into office, so has the same right as anyone to be there. If a terrorist attack is planned, there's very little to be done to stop it, short of completely closing off everything and waiting. These people arent ones who would be intimidated by the CIA or the FBI or the NSA, the simple fact of the matter is, there's only so much you can do. A good analogy might be: If you step on one cockroach, three more take its place. __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Well, GWB has spend massively on the military, and I'd say that he's weakened national security. It's not like money is a reliable indicator. Military-industrial complexes are hugely wasteful, as are things like the TSA. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Isnt this guy another former Clintonista? Is it just me or do I see a pattern here.