How do you feel about harbor raids? - Page 2

meduza · 12-27-08, 11:48 AM

if it was a multiple choice poll, I'd select
Completely not historical, unless you are the skipper of U-47.
Shameless exploitation of AI weakness
Exciting set piece challange, with both prize and risk

Since it's not, I voted for No thanks...

I only raided a port once, Gibraltar in june 41. I made two attempts. First time I approached in rough weather, was detected and barely escaped. I returned the following night, sunk the Nelson and got away.

It was one of the most nerve-wrecking experience I had in this game.

Privateer, your 'not so nice' mods for Harbor raiders sound interesting.

Red Heat · 12-27-08, 11:56 AM

Well in my opinion...War its War...all means are avaiable specialy those wich the enemy its not counting (surprise factor) or never was tried or experiment in a World War (Spec Op). So this words have a lot of sense:

"A remarkable exploit of professional skill and daring" - Churchill

Sailor Steve · 12-27-08, 06:30 PM

I went for choice 1, but 3 was a close second.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

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Gimme

Me too, except useless in my case because I'd never do it anyway, so what's the point?

badwolf · 12-27-08, 11:52 PM

I'll only attack harbours when ordered via Sh3Gen.

So I voted Challenging, but only when attacking harbors not attacked before

Jimbuna · 12-28-08, 10:20 AM

No 1....the reality

Hanomag · 12-28-08, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

I have several
'not so nice' mods for Harbor raiders.
All are based on the true defenses used.

They were discussed, tested, and turned down for 3.0

It was decided to many people would complain about getting
blown to Hades when they encountered
Real Harbor defenses.

Too bad.. Harbor Raids are cheesey...

A long time ago I raided NYC Harbor sunk a tanker sitting next to Liberty Island... I even posted a bunch of screens about it in a thread. I leave the thread up to remind myself that...

It was very UN-satisfying.

Harbor Raids SHOULD NOT be your bread and butter!!

Hartmann · 12-28-08, 02:24 PM

I never do harbour raids. i act like a real skipper
i preffer stay in depth waters in front of the port intercepting the traffic.

In real life, a raid could end in a disaster , the crew captured, and the worst, the boat in shallow waters were the divers can enter easily.

Sub nets, sound devices, mines, destroyers with depth charges set to 14-20 meters
air cover ( the boat easy to see in shallow waters),

too dangerous

A Very Super Market · 12-28-08, 02:28 PM

I like to think that the only thing harbour raids are good for is surrendering.

KeptinCranky · 12-28-08, 06:25 PM

Shameless exploit....

Hell, I sailed into Liverpool during GWX testing, sunk whatever was sinkable, and even surfaced for a while to get some fresh air before making my way back out

I've been to all British harbours, and almost all in the med, as well as some odd ones like st. Helena and have only been sunk doing so in Tobruk and Malta, although there were some tense moments elsewhere too, like getting bombed by the luftwaffe while in the middle of Bristol Harbor

I don't do harbors in career play, although you will find me hunting in the Irish Sea until late 1942

Task Force · 12-28-08, 07:40 PM

I know the feeling, I once was bombed by the luftwaffe. I was also harbor raiding, so far iv raided dover, and a port thats name slips my mind now.

(Dover was vary easy.)

Kongo Otto · 12-28-08, 09:17 PM

I never raid harbors, my U-Boot has an allergic reaction against UK Harbors. :rotfl:

Erich dem Roten · 12-28-08, 09:59 PM

Even though I've done it many times (though never in a DiD career) I voted shameless exploit. I'm almost always able to pin the prowling escorts into running themselves into concrete piers which they can't escape while I float around freely picking targets at will.

kiwikapitan · 12-29-08, 08:53 PM

Heh I just 'raided' Loch Ewe after being given the mission by SH3Gen.The weather was foul but I was spotted by a PT boat and that screwed that idea of doing a Prien and sinking the "Illustrious" fleet carrier which I was told might be there. And it was!

I fired my fishes blind (I missed) and crept away from the party above. I know the only reason I survived was it was Oct. '39 and there was no ASDIC so they were just dropping their loads blind. I sunk a C2 and a Proteus freighter just outside the harbour. That made up for the carrier.

I voted for the 1st one. I just wanted to see if I could do what Prien did 14 days earlier.

This was WAC not GWX.

TarJak · 12-29-08, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

I'll have to rebuild them.
Seems I lost them during installer tests.
:rotfl:

But they are wicked cool!!

Sound listening devices,
which were implemented in WWI.

And those are attached to land control points.
Which had a bad habit of setting off complete Minefields
when a sound was detected!

Imagine being in the middle of a Mine field when the whole field goes BOOM!!
:rotfl:

Gimme too! Did you get the moving subnet boom we discussed working?

Sledgehammer427 · 12-29-08, 11:16 PM

DiD...
im not risking my boat for sitting ducks
i have better things to try and sink

EDIT: MOVING SUBNET BOOM!!! AHHHHHHHH
scary

View Poll Results: What do you think about harbor raids?
Completely not historical, unless you are the skipper of U-47.	22	17.89%
"A remarkable exploit of professional skill and daring" - Churchill	15	12.20%
Shameless exploitation of AI weakness	17	13.82%
Exciting set piece challange, with both prize and risk	34	27.64%
Challenging, but only when attacking harbors not attacked before	13	10.57%
No Thanks, I preferred my catches fresh and swimming, until I fry them	22	17.89%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

12-27-08, 11:48 AM	#16
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	if it was a multiple choice poll, I'd select Completely not historical, unless you are the skipper of U-47. Shameless exploitation of AI weakness Exciting set piece challange, with both prize and risk Since it's not, I voted for No thanks... I only raided a port once, Gibraltar in june 41. I made two attempts. First time I approached in rough weather, was detected and barely escaped. I returned the following night, sunk the Nelson and got away. It was one of the most nerve-wrecking experience I had in this game. Privateer, your 'not so nice' mods for Harbor raiders sound interesting. __________________ Last edited by meduza; 12-27-08 at 11:50 AM.

12-27-08, 11:56 AM	#17
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Well in my opinion...War its War...all means are avaiable specialy those wich the enemy its not counting (surprise factor) or never was tried or experiment in a World War (Spec Op). So this words have a lot of sense: "A remarkable exploit of professional skill and daring" - Churchill __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato Last edited by Red Heat; 12-27-08 at 12:07 PM.

12-28-08, 10:20 AM	#20
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,678 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	No 1....the reality __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-28-08, 02:24 PM	#22
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	I never do harbour raids. i act like a real skipper i preffer stay in depth waters in front of the port intercepting the traffic. In real life, a raid could end in a disaster , the crew captured, and the worst, the boat in shallow waters were the divers can enter easily. Sub nets, sound devices, mines, destroyers with depth charges set to 14-20 meters air cover ( the boat easy to see in shallow waters), too dangerous __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

12-27-08, 11:52 PM	#19
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	I'll only attack harbours when ordered via Sh3Gen. So I voted Challenging, but only when attacking harbors not attacked before

12-28-08, 02:28 PM	#23
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I like to think that the only thing harbour raids are good for is surrendering. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

12-28-08, 06:25 PM	#24
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Shameless exploit.... Hell, I sailed into Liverpool during GWX testing, sunk whatever was sinkable, and even surfaced for a while to get some fresh air before making my way back out I've been to all British harbours, and almost all in the med, as well as some odd ones like st. Helena and have only been sunk doing so in Tobruk and Malta, although there were some tense moments elsewhere too, like getting bombed by the luftwaffe while in the middle of Bristol Harbor I don't do harbors in career play, although you will find me hunting in the Irish Sea until late 1942

12-28-08, 07:40 PM	#25
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I know the feeling, I once was bombed by the luftwaffe. I was also harbor raiding, so far iv raided dover, and a port thats name slips my mind now. (Dover was vary easy.) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

12-28-08, 09:17 PM	#26
Kongo Otto Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Augsburg / Germany Posts: 631 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	I never raid harbors, my U-Boot has an allergic reaction against UK Harbors. :rotfl:

12-28-08, 09:59 PM	#27
Erich dem Roten Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 134 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Even though I've done it many times (though never in a DiD career) I voted shameless exploit. I'm almost always able to pin the prowling escorts into running themselves into concrete piers which they can't escape while I float around freely picking targets at will. __________________

12-29-08, 08:53 PM	#28
kiwikapitan Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 108 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Heh I just 'raided' Loch Ewe after being given the mission by SH3Gen.The weather was foul but I was spotted by a PT boat and that screwed that idea of doing a Prien and sinking the "Illustrious" fleet carrier which I was told might be there. And it was! I fired my fishes blind (I missed) and crept away from the party above. I know the only reason I survived was it was Oct. '39 and there was no ASDIC so they were just dropping their loads blind. I sunk a C2 and a Proteus freighter just outside the harbour. That made up for the carrier. I voted for the 1st one. I just wanted to see if I could do what Prien did 14 days earlier. This was WAC not GWX. __________________ Proud GWX user! but currently on WAC holiday.... Last edited by kiwikapitan; 12-29-08 at 08:55 PM.

12-29-08, 11:16 PM	#30
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	DiD... im not risking my boat for sitting ducks i have better things to try and sink EDIT: MOVING SUBNET BOOM!!! AHHHHHHHH scary __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C! Last edited by Sledgehammer427; 12-29-08 at 11:17 PM.