Firearm carry law is being updated for National Parks

[SUBMAN1]

Woo hoo! Its about time they get rid of these draconian laws. So many times I read about people getting robbed, mugged, raped, and killed, and so many times I here about park rangers getting killed because of this stupid law. The criminals hang out in the National Park because no one can be armed there. No one can fight back. Now that is all about to change. No place will be safe for the criminal in the future.

$5 says crime in National Parks is about to drop off the deep end to near '0'. I refuse to camp even in a National Park because of this stupid law. Now I will be able to peaceably.

-S



U.S. Department of the Interior - News Release - Interior Announces Final Firearms Policy Update

"WASHINGTON, D.C. – Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty today announced that the Department of the Interior has finalized updated regulations governing the possession of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. The final rule, which updates existing regulations, would allow an individual to carry a concealed weapon in national parks and wildlife refuges if, and only if, the individual is authorized to carry a concealed weapon under state law in the state in which the national park or refuge is located. The update has been submitted to the Federal Register for publication "

[Enigma]

Now I will be able to peaceably.

...and now no one else will, knowing YOU of all people are running around our National Parks with your beloved guns...:rotfl:

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Enigma

...and now no one else will, knowing YOU of all people are running around our National Parks with your beloved guns...:rotfl:

Shows your intelligence level.

-S

[August]

I can see the need to carry a weapon out in those places but I really don't see why it would be preferable to carry concealed.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Shows your intelligence level.

-S

ofcourse ! he has got to be a stupid commie cause he doesnt want everyone running around packing a hidden .45

[August]

Originally Posted by Morts

ofcourse ! he has got to be a stupid commie cause he doesnt want everyone running around packing a hidden .45

Morts seriously do you have something against allowing us to make our own laws in our own country?

[Morts]

not at all
i just like making fun of them:rotfl:

[Kapt Z]

wow. a lot of frightened people on this thread.

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by Kapt Z

wow. a lot of frightened people on this thread.

Maybe there aren't as many predators in Europe? In the open areas of our country there are many wild animals that can kill you, will kill you, and eat you. If you're 100 miles from nowhere dialing 911 isn't going to do much good. It's just common sense to have a weapon to protect yourself.

It's not a matter of being frightened as much as it is dealing with the reality of the situation(s).

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/08/pot.eradication/

"This is about serious criminal organizations," Walters said. "They're willing to kill anybody who gets in their way. They're taking money back to those who kill prosecutors, judges and law enforcement."
<snip>
Authorities uncovered more than $1 billion worth of pot plants in Sequoia National Forest this week.

The drug cartels are using our national forest and parks to grow pot. So they can run around with guns, and we can't? Nope, not going to happen for long, not here.

[Kapt Z]

Originally Posted by MothBalls

Maybe there aren't as many predators in Europe? In the open areas of our country there are many wild animals that can kill you, will kill you, and eat you. If you're 100 miles from nowhere dialing 911 isn't going to do much good. It's just common sense to have a weapon to protect yourself.

It's not a matter of being frightened as much as it is dealing with the reality of the situation(s).

The reality is there IS danger out 'where the wild things are'. There is also danger in our bathrooms. The point is, is carrying a concealed, pocket 9mm going to make any difference at all? If you are going to camp next to a river during the salmon run in grizzly territory then you need a bazooka not a concealed pop gun. To quote Gene Wilder in Blazing Saddles, "No, don't do that! If you shoot him you will only make him mad."

In all the 30+ years I've been camping I've dealt with the cold, the heat, the wet, lack of water, lack of food, injury and bears+. My grandfather and Mr Ligertwood, my old scoutmaster taught me how to deal successfully with all those things and funny enough, bringing a gun along never came up.

So, go ahead, pack heat if it will make you feel better. Just know being in the woods is a heck of a lot safer that civilization.

[August]

Geez guys. Understand the situation. ALL THIS RULE CHANGE DOES is put the concealed carry laws in a national park in sync with the state that the park is located in. Carrying firearms UNconcealed on national park land is perfectly legal and always has been, again in accordance with pertinent state law.

[Kapt Z]

Originally Posted by August

Geez guys. Understand the situation. ALL THIS RULE CHANGE DOES is put the concealed carry laws in a national park in sync with the state that the park is located in. Carrying firearms UNconcealed on national park land is perfectly legal and always has been, again in accordance with pertinent state law.

Why bother then? Hiding our guns from Yogi and BooBoo? Concealed carry in civilization is a little paranoid anyway.

But, that's another thread.....

[sunvalleyslim]

"would allow an individual to carry a concealed weapon in national parks and wildlife refuges if, and only if, the individual is authorized to carry a concealed weapon under state law in the state in which the national park or refuge is located.

Doesn't allow for everyone to "carry".........you need to be a law enforcement officer or have a concealed weapons permit from a law enforcement agency to be armed. Los Angeles City and County do not give private citizens concealed gun permits