Assault weapons ban back on Obama's webpage

[Zachstar]

Why don't we just make it legal with minimum paperwork to pack a full auto AK-47.. Lets take it further and make owning a 50 cal all the rage. "Them terrorists wont mess with me when I can tear apart the neighborhood with a single box" eh?

I am pro 2nd amendment but only to a limit.

If your 44 or your 12g Buckshot can't do the job.. You do not need to play with guns.

[Stealth Hunter]

Hell, let's legalize RPGs and grenades while we're at it!

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

If your 44 or your 12g Buckshot can't do the job.. You do not need to play with guns.

What he said.

If you want to shoot the big guns join the military and get it out of your system.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Why don't we just make it legal with minimum paperwork to pack a full auto AK-47.. Lets take it further and make owning a 50 cal all the rage. "Them terrorists wont mess with me when I can tear apart the neighborhood with a single box" eh?

I am pro 2nd amendment but only to a limit.

If your 44 or your 12g Buckshot can't do the job.. You do not need to play with guns.

If you knew anything about guns, you'd already know that you can do all these things and many people do. I have several friends with full auto AK's and full auto MP5's. I've also put many a shot down range from .50 cal's.

Guess what? No one 'ever' uses something like this in a crime. You'd be hard pressed to find more than one or two cases. Handguns tun out to be the weapon of choice in 99% of all gun related crimes. Even sporting rifles fail to make even the 1% mark and fall far short of it by orders of magnitude.

But I guess they look ugly. Lets ban them because they look ugly. Gun control people are all stupid in my opinion because they fail to look at the facts. Actually they are just sheep.

The real reason is the Gov doesn't want the people to be able to fight back effectively.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by August

Sorry Sub, I read that on his website the day before the election.

Really? I've followed that with the NRA page and they announced it was put back on. I went looking for it before the election because it was removed at one point. Seems it was put back on slightly earlier than expected.

-S

[nikimcbee]

I have a .58 caliber, is that a problem?:rotfl:

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I have a .58 caliber, is that a problem?:rotfl:

In Zachstars world - yes.

[Hylander_1314]

Yeah well they can't have my carbine or my cap and ball pistols. The latter are family heirlooms from my great great grand uncle who was in the US Cavaly back in the 1870s and 1880s. He was 100 years older than me and passed away when I was 6 years old. Dad kept them for me until I was old enough to have them, and still do. 2 of them are 44s, and one is a fiveshot 32 that fit in along the top of his riding boot. All 3 still fire, but are awefully loud when you do fire them. And the black powder makes a huge cloud of smoke.

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

If you knew anything about guns, you'd already know that you can do all these things and many people do. I have several friends with full auto AK's and full auto MP5's. I've also put many a shot down range from .50 cal's.

The real reason is the Gov doesn't want the people to be able to fight back effectively.

-S

Just curious Subman1 were you ever in the military?

If you knew anything about the law you would know if you get caught doing that you will go to prison. Go ahead and empty a magazine from a full auto weapon that can't be full auto. You're doing time even if it was justified.

The government isn't worried about you fighting back. You really think you are going to stop a lowly infantry squad rolling into your house? What about a Bradley with its 25MM cannon? Nope, if they want you they will get you, full auto or not.

I never even used burst in the military. Full auto and burst was just for fun to play around with, don't use it. Semi auto is all you need, anything else won't hit jack. Full auto is for the movies. Taking it off semi auto is asking for a jam.

Joe six pack does NOT need an armory filled with assault weapons. Get real.

[August]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

Joe six pack does NOT need an armory filled with assault weapons. Get real.

It's not for you to say what people "need".

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by August

It's not for you to say what people "need".

Sure it is for me to say. I'm a voter. I'm not an anti-gun person, but Joe citizen does not need .50 cals and howitzers. Sorry.

[August]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Really? I've followed that with the NRA page and they announced it was put back on. I went looking for it before the election because it was removed at one point. Seems it was put back on slightly earlier than expected.

-S

Well the whole thing is immaterial anyways. It's the Democrats in Congress who will be the ones pushing anti gun agenda not the President.

[August]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

Sure it is for me to say. I'm a voter. I'm not an anti-gun person, but Joe citizen does not need .50 cals and howitzers. Sorry.

Howitzers and .50's are not what's being discussed here. Neither are even being considered for any additional legislation. We're talking about small and medium caliber semi automatic "military style" firearms, that are, cosmetics aside, identical to many popular hunting rifles, not to mention most home defense weapons.

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by August

We're talking about small and medium caliber semi automatic "military style" firearms, that are, cosmetics aside, identical to many popular hunting rifles, not to mention most home defense weapons.

Wrong. A semi automatic AK-47 is not even in the same ballpark as a hunting rifle or shotgun. What planet do you people live on? This is America, this is not Gaza or a farm in Africa, you do not need AK's and M-16's. You all look like fools being this paranoid you know. Fox News panders to this and all of you all look like fools.

Let's be real, getting rid of the guns and bibles in this country would solve 90% of its problems.

[August]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

[Let's be real, getting rid of the guns and bibles in this country would solve 90% of its problems.

So your true colors come out in the end. You profess not to be anti-gun but in reality, you are, as well as anti religious freedom. What other constitutional rights do you oppose?

And BTW you ought to brush up on your knowledge of firearms as well as the language of the laws you are supporting. As for your comparison to Gaza and Africa have you ever thought that perhaps those rights you find so problematic might be part of the reason American isn't like those places?