[REL] Thomsen's Ships V3.1 is out! All credits to H.SIE (10/12/2008) - Page 2

ReallyDedPoet · 10-30-08, 12:01 PM

Nice to see folks working this though

, no need for the drama. Looking forward
to seeing you complete this one PT

RDP

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-30-08, 12:12 PM

@Jim, there's controllers for how much does a ship bounce of a collision. If set too low, they merge, like you said. If set too high, the bounce is overdue and a ship may collide at 2kts and bounce back at 4kts, if you know what I mean. I'll do my best to find the best middle-ground there, and thank you for mentioning this, it's a very important thing to look at, since this mod will enable one ship to collide with eachother.

@Graf, yeah, I know. I don't like to take things too seriously, life is just too short for that kind of attitude. Noticed that I've started this thread with a joke? I'm more pacific lately, I've come to realize that this is just a game, this is just modding, this is just hobbie, fun and friends. Why waste time, hair and get stressed discussing what is right and what is wrong at something that 3 years from now will be completly dead and forgotten? There's actually not ONE thing in like that is worth stressing about.

Sailor Steve · 10-30-08, 12:20 PM

I will disagree with one point:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

- Ships won't be able to avoyd torpedos. In real life, when a ship spotted a torpedo, it was too close to turn/stop/accelerate and avoyd it.

I've found several accounts of merchant ships avoiding torpedoes. But, they were always underway, and did manage to avoid them by turning, not acceleration or deceleration. And several does not equal many. And a lot of the ones who avoided a torpedo got caught by the next one. And since PT is not in a position to do extensive testing it's possible that a ship may actually still evade a torpedo every now and then.

So, I'm not arguing with the basic premise, just pointing out a fact of life. And I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes.

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-30-08, 01:32 PM

Yeah, Steve, I know what you mean.

The ship's turning ability wont be changed too much, maybe just cutted in half. The main idea here is to fix the accel/breaking ability to a more realistic approach. It's hard to see a ship stop at a red light to let pass the torpedos.

Jimbuna · 10-30-08, 01:43 PM

Did someone mention penguins :p

Task Force · 10-30-08, 01:45 PM

Will this be a GWX 3.0 feature.

with the correctly edited shipping lanes for it...

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-30-08, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force

Will this be a GWX 3.0 feature.

with the correctly edited shipping lanes for it...

Who said so?

Task Force · 10-30-08, 01:51 PM

Little men on mars, They raidoed my ship and tole us of this info.:p

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-30-08, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force

Little men on mars, They raidoed my ship and tole us of this info.:p

If this is true, I'm stopping my work now.

Task Force · 10-30-08, 01:59 PM

No Im just jokeing, I know nothing.

Whish I did, but I dont.

SeaWolf U-57 · 10-30-08, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Did someone mention penguins :p

Didn't you ask for some on the ice flows in GWX3.0 :hmm:

Dekessey · 10-30-08, 10:51 PM

This mod sounds great PT, best of luck, and keep us informed of your progress.
I guess there will be people willing to test it out throughly.

10-31-08, 09:00 AM

Any chance you can attenuate the very unrealistic "bobbing" of ships in calmer waters. Just one look at the "floating docks" in kiel gives me a stomache ache, how the hell a bloke was supposed to hammer rivets whilst the whole rig is jumping about the place like a rodeo is beyone me.

I get the impression the ships are no where near "heavy" enough in calmer waters. I've been on big, small and medium ships in my time including HMS Sheffield (old destroyer, sunk in Falklands/Malvinas/Whatever)....not one of them bobbed they way SH3 ships do.

Right, thats my "moan of the day" aired....now whose for a came of fluffy care-ball.

Jimbuna · 10-31-08, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix1957

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Did someone mention penguins :p

Didn't you ask for some on the ice flows in GWX3.0 :hmm:

Cool idea :hmm:

Graf Paper · 10-31-08, 11:29 AM

Penguins in the arctic?

Must be one of those psychological warfare plots to fool convoys into thinking they're off course and sow confusion, making them easy pickin's for the wolf packs. :p

10-30-08, 12:01 PM	#16
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,885 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Nice to see folks working this though , no need for the drama. Looking forward to seeing you complete this one PT RDP __________________ Back in the Day

10-30-08, 12:12 PM	#17
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	@Jim, there's controllers for how much does a ship bounce of a collision. If set too low, they merge, like you said. If set too high, the bounce is overdue and a ship may collide at 2kts and bounce back at 4kts, if you know what I mean. I'll do my best to find the best middle-ground there, and thank you for mentioning this, it's a very important thing to look at, since this mod will enable one ship to collide with eachother. @Graf, yeah, I know. I don't like to take things too seriously, life is just too short for that kind of attitude. Noticed that I've started this thread with a joke? I'm more pacific lately, I've come to realize that this is just a game, this is just modding, this is just hobbie, fun and friends. Why waste time, hair and get stressed discussing what is right and what is wrong at something that 3 years from now will be completly dead and forgotten? There's actually not ONE thing in like that is worth stressing about. __________________ To each his own

10-30-08, 01:32 PM	#19
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Yeah, Steve, I know what you mean. The ship's turning ability wont be changed too much, maybe just cutted in half. The main idea here is to fix the accel/breaking ability to a more realistic approach. It's hard to see a ship stop at a red light to let pass the torpedos. __________________ To each his own

10-30-08, 01:43 PM	#20
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Did someone mention penguins :p __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-30-08, 01:45 PM	#21
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Will this be a GWX 3.0 feature. with the correctly edited shipping lanes for it... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

10-30-08, 01:51 PM	#23
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Little men on mars, They raidoed my ship and tole us of this info.:p __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

10-30-08, 01:59 PM	#25
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	No Im just jokeing, I know nothing. Whish I did, but I dont. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

10-30-08, 10:51 PM	#27
Dekessey Torpedoman Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 112 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	This mod sounds great PT, best of luck, and keep us informed of your progress. I guess there will be people willing to test it out throughly.

10-31-08, 09:00 AM	#28
Uber Gruber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Any chance you can attenuate the very unrealistic "bobbing" of ships in calmer waters. Just one look at the "floating docks" in kiel gives me a stomache ache, how the hell a bloke was supposed to hammer rivets whilst the whole rig is jumping about the place like a rodeo is beyone me. I get the impression the ships are no where near "heavy" enough in calmer waters. I've been on big, small and medium ships in my time including HMS Sheffield (old destroyer, sunk in Falklands/Malvinas/Whatever)....not one of them bobbed they way SH3 ships do. Right, thats my "moan of the day" aired....now whose for a came of fluffy care-ball.

10-31-08, 11:29 AM	#30
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Penguins in the arctic? Must be one of those psychological warfare plots to fool convoys into thinking they're off course and sow confusion, making them easy pickin's for the wolf packs. :p __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.