Proper use of homing torpedos - Page 2

Task Force · 10-12-08, 11:22 PM

Dont wory about it. It realy is nothing big.

kylania · 10-12-08, 11:24 PM

Ack, yah! No worries at all.

Sleep well, unlike the merchants! heh

Task Force · 10-12-08, 11:27 PM

Yep those merchents dont stand a chance with us subsim skippers.

predavolk · 10-17-08, 08:59 AM

Homing torps:

1- Make sure you give them at least 400M to lock on.

2- Be aware that they have a limited search cone, so you have to put them fairly close to a target sometimes.

3- They will work fine as impact, even hitting from odd angles. Really odd angles they'll bounce off and try again! 1M depth will sink 90% of destroyers, cripple the rest. They usually don't sink right away, but keep coming and pinging. Slower though, and soon they'll sink (90% of the time).

4- Magnetic are better for down the throat shots at close range as they don't have to turn and chase the ship. Sometimes they pass under the ship and blow it up before reaching the props.

5- They target props only (other than above magnetic shots). So they aren't very useful against merchants.

6- Against a dead still opponent, they'll still explode if they hit it (set on impact), but they won't search for it (V's will search for you if you're running above silent!).

7- They will chase the fastest ship. If there's a little torpedo boat zipping around, it'll suck up that torp.

8- Type IVs work as well as Vs, but have no magnetics (Con) but don't search you if they miss (Pro).

9- I have yet (Spring 1945) to encounter a destroyer with an acoustic decoy, that were apparently quite effective in reality. So the IX is a waste IMO.

10- Better to buy one or two for an emergency, and save up so that you can buy enough to decimate a convoy rather than have 3-4 on board for each cruise. That does you little good.

Hanomag · 10-17-08, 11:14 AM

Welcome Aboard Herr kaluen!!!

Jimbuna · 10-17-08, 11:49 AM

Welcome aboard Kaleun Nangleator

@Predavolk

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I have yet (Spring 1945) to encounter a destroyer with an acoustic decoy, that were apparently quite effective in reality. So the IX is a waste IMO.

What game are you playing :hmm:

predavolk · 10-17-08, 07:41 PM

Same as always, latest GWX, 100% realism, as always. I might have had 10% of my homing torps miss when locked on, but I figured they were duds instead of being decoyed. I've been using the IVs quite successfully as of March 1945, and the V's too. In fact, this current cruise, my very last, is the first time I'm bringing on board a type IX. You've had homing torps miss or blow up prematurely off a destroyer's stern? That'd be a big change in my tactics! Or at least, my load-out!

Jimbuna · 10-18-08, 06:18 AM

It was your reference to destroyers with acoustic decoys that had me puzzled :hmm:

predavolk · 10-18-08, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

It was your reference to destroyers with acoustic decoys that had me puzzled :hmm:

I didn't know if the game was supposed to model them or not. In real life, as I mentioned, they were supposedly quite effective against acoustic torps. I never found any destroyer using a decoy against my torps in the game. If it's not in there, no worries. To be honest, using a XXI is kind of "what-if" fantasy already. Realistically, I should've stuck with my XIB hunting lone ships in remote locations, assuming I wasn't killed.

Jimbuna · 10-20-08, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by predavolk

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

It was your reference to destroyers with acoustic decoys that had me puzzled :hmm:

I didn't know if the game was supposed to model them or not. In real life, as I mentioned, they were supposedly quite effective against acoustic torps. I never found any destroyer using a decoy against my torps in the game. If it's not in there, no worries. To be honest, using a XXI is kind of "what-if" fantasy already. Realistically, I should've stuck with my XIB hunting lone ships in remote locations, assuming I wasn't killed.

I'm afraid acoustic decoys aren't modelled ingame.....but I wish they were :hmm:

Nangleator · 10-20-08, 12:10 PM

Thanks for the tips and the welcomes!

I followed my first shots to target. (I'm nowhere near confident enough yet to go anywhere near 100% realism.) Very entertaining! My first bounced off the Clemson's rudder, sank a bit, then came on again. I didn't know it was going to do that at the time. I laughed.

Either the Clemson or the V&W, I forget which, survived the impact, but without props. Their passive sonar caused me some grief, as the little Flower gave me some trouble. (I got greedy and tried a T4 on the Flower, since he was all that was between me and about 20 fat targets. Unfortunately, the T4 liked one of the fat targets better.) After he got bored and went away, I came back to finish off the crippled.

10-12-08, 11:22 PM	#16
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Dont wory about it. It realy is nothing big. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

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kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Ack, yah! No worries at all. Sleep well, unlike the merchants! heh __________________

10-12-08, 11:27 PM	#18
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Yep those merchents dont stand a chance with us subsim skippers. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

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10-18-08, 06:18 AM	#23
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It was your reference to destroyers with acoustic decoys that had me puzzled :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-17-08, 08:59 AM	#19
predavolk Weps Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 369 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Homing torps: 1- Make sure you give them at least 400M to lock on. 2- Be aware that they have a limited search cone, so you have to put them fairly close to a target sometimes. 3- They will work fine as impact, even hitting from odd angles. Really odd angles they'll bounce off and try again! 1M depth will sink 90% of destroyers, cripple the rest. They usually don't sink right away, but keep coming and pinging. Slower though, and soon they'll sink (90% of the time). 4- Magnetic are better for down the throat shots at close range as they don't have to turn and chase the ship. Sometimes they pass under the ship and blow it up before reaching the props. 5- They target props only (other than above magnetic shots). So they aren't very useful against merchants. 6- Against a dead still opponent, they'll still explode if they hit it (set on impact), but they won't search for it (V's will search for you if you're running above silent!). 7- They will chase the fastest ship. If there's a little torpedo boat zipping around, it'll suck up that torp. 8- Type IVs work as well as Vs, but have no magnetics (Con) but don't search you if they miss (Pro). 9- I have yet (Spring 1945) to encounter a destroyer with an acoustic decoy, that were apparently quite effective in reality. So the IX is a waste IMO. 10- Better to buy one or two for an emergency, and save up so that you can buy enough to decimate a convoy rather than have 3-4 on board for each cruise. That does you little good.

10-17-08, 07:41 PM	#22
predavolk Weps Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 369 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Same as always, latest GWX, 100% realism, as always. I might have had 10% of my homing torps miss when locked on, but I figured they were duds instead of being decoyed. I've been using the IVs quite successfully as of March 1945, and the V's too. In fact, this current cruise, my very last, is the first time I'm bringing on board a type IX. You've had homing torps miss or blow up prematurely off a destroyer's stern? That'd be a big change in my tactics! Or at least, my load-out!

10-20-08, 12:10 PM	#26
Nangleator Mate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Billerica Posts: 58 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the tips and the welcomes! I followed my first shots to target. (I'm nowhere near confident enough yet to go anywhere near 100% realism.) Very entertaining! My first bounced off the Clemson's rudder, sank a bit, then came on again. I didn't know it was going to do that at the time. I laughed. Either the Clemson or the V&W, I forget which, survived the impact, but without props. Their passive sonar caused me some grief, as the little Flower gave me some trouble. (I got greedy and tried a T4 on the Flower, since he was all that was between me and about 20 fat targets. Unfortunately, the T4 liked one of the fat targets better.) After he got bored and went away, I came back to finish off the crippled.