Naked guy gets tasered and falls down to his death - Page 2

Happy Times · 09-25-08, 02:36 PM

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What was the purpuse of tazering him?

I have reached the opinion that tazers more and more are getting used preemptively and for disciplinary measures. Both is unacceptable. Tazers exclusively should be used in cases of police being attacked by suspects turning clearly violent against them. not following orders fast enough, or sanctionising unwanted behavior, are not sufficient reasons to tazer somebody. the police is not the judge. Doing so is not different to beating up a suspect because of his "suspicious dark skin colour". tazers are meant to be non-lethal weapons of self-defense - not more and not less. what we currently hear with regularity, is a clear abuse of the intention behind their introduction.

Couldnt agree more!

x3 Its not ment for that, it is suppose to be replacement for a gun.

sharkbit · 09-25-08, 02:37 PM

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What was the purpuse of tazering him?

To see if the fluorescent lamp he was holding would light up?

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Soda pop came out my nose while reading this!!!

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Dowly · 09-25-08, 02:38 PM

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Weapons in testing that fire glue.

Lol! I swear I saw a weapon like this in a Judge Dredd comic! :rotfl

It did work, tho... :hmm

A glue firing gun has been in development for years.

It's 6-8 years from when I read the comic. :p COPY-CATS!

antikristuseke · 09-25-08, 03:00 PM

Im not sure which is more surprising, the fact that they are copying a comic book or the fact that you can read

Fincuan · 09-25-08, 03:04 PM

As you can see he's able to read and write(or has someone do that for him), but even though I've flown several hours with him in IL2, Teamspeak running and all, I still haven't heard him TALK :rotfl:

SS107.9MHz · 09-25-08, 03:24 PM

Man... Just saw the video, what the hell was that officer thinking? What did he think would happen, that he'd just float to the ground after being tased? He just acted out on a guy who was obviously in a psychotic episode, don't the NYPD have psychologists? Damn, thisi is easily involuntary manslaugher if not more...at least from my poor knowledge about US laws...

Zachstar · 09-25-08, 03:33 PM

Either the officer will be charged with Manslaughter eventually or he will be sued to nonexistance.

These stun guns were a good idea on paper but in reality instead of being used "Instead of a firearm" they are being used "Instead of an Arm"

Those who go through additional training and lots of time in the books making DAMN sure they know everything about this weapon are the ones that will suffer as these trigger happy *******s eventually get these weapons outlawed.

SS107.9MHz · 09-25-08, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

Either the officer will be charged with Manslaughter eventually or he will be sued to nonexistance.

These stun guns were a good idea on paper but in reality instead of being used "Instead of a firearm" they are being used "Instead of an Arm"

Those who go through additional training and lots of time in the books making DAMN sure they know everything about this weapon are the ones that will suffer as these trigger happy *******s eventually get these weapons outlawed.

Yo're assuming the guys mother has the money to do it...

As forthe "instead of an arm" couldn't agrre more... It was exactly the same with that guy in the airport in CAnada or something, some months ago

Zachstar · 09-25-08, 03:50 PM

She will have the money. Some group will give it to her and she will sue.

Hopefully, It will not come to that. This is a case on Manslaughter and needs to be handled in a criminal court.

longam · 09-25-08, 04:43 PM

He'll get suspended with pay.

Task Force · 09-25-08, 04:48 PM

Too bad for the guy.

But he souldnt have been doing what he was.

goldorak · 09-25-08, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

Too bad for the guy.

But he souldnt have been doing what he was.

And that gives the police the RIGHT to kill him ?

What was wrong with simply arresting the poor guy ?
Skybird is correct in his assessment.

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I have reached the opinion that tazers more and more are getting used preemptively and for disciplinary measures. Both is unacceptable. Tazers exclusively should be used in cases of police being attacked by suspects turning clearly violent against them. not following orders fast enough, or sanctionising unwanted behavior, are not sufficient reasons to tazer somebody. the police is not the judge

joegrundman · 09-25-08, 07:09 PM

I feel sorry for the policeman. In Britain, policemen can kill a guy without any provocation at all and do not need to expect to pay a price

SS107.9MHz · 09-25-08, 07:37 PM

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Too bad for the guy.

But he souldnt have been doing what he was.

He clearly wasn't functioning with the whole of his mental abilities, by the behavior he either suffered from schizophrenia or some sort of developmental disturbance ffrom the Autism spectre ,though I'm inclined for the first... He couldn't be held responsible, he was jus a sick man... it would be like tasing an Alzheimer pacient that had been in a delirious or confusional state...

1480 · 09-25-08, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

Too bad for the guy.

But he souldnt have been doing what he was.

And that gives the police the RIGHT to kill him ?

What was wrong with simply arresting the poor guy ?
Skybird is correct in his assessment.

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I have reached the opinion that tazers more and more are getting used preemptively and for disciplinary measures. Both is unacceptable. Tazers exclusively should be used in cases of police being attacked by suspects turning clearly violent against them. not following orders fast enough, or sanctionising unwanted behavior, are not sufficient reasons to tazer somebody. the police is not the judge

Lets look at the situation at hand. The man was good size. How many of you heros, do you think, you would need to take that man down safely?

Did you heros even notice where the mental was located? When you consider your answer to the 1st question, it's a fire escape, 10 feet off the ground, probably at most 4 feet wide. These are made of metal bars spaced at 4 inches. That is your footing.

He made threats both verbal and physically to the officers. The US EPA lists the phospher powder/mercury combination a hazardous waste if released from a broken light tube. You think there is a good chance a large and mentally unstable man, armed with an object, when broken can take on the characteristic of a straight razor, poses a real threat to cause great bodily harm or death?

I ask the folks that have never been placed into a no-win situation, what should the officers have done? Im always sickened by monday morning quarterbacks who react after the fact. Put yourselves in their shoes.

Momma knew her son was disturbed. States have provisions for court ordered mental evaulations, FREE OF CHARGE. Her "sick" son may still alive had she been a parent.

09-25-08, 03:24 PM	#21
SS107.9MHz Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lat.40º12'82"N, Long.8º85'48"W, Portugal Posts: 256 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Man... Just saw the video, what the hell was that officer thinking? What did he think would happen, that he'd just float to the ground after being tased? He just acted out on a guy who was obviously in a psychotic episode, don't the NYPD have psychologists? Damn, thisi is easily involuntary manslaugher if not more...at least from my poor knowledge about US laws... __________________ Rádio Universidade de Coimbra 107.9 FM, 26 Years Of Free Radio, http://www.ruc.pt/

09-25-08, 03:33 PM	#22
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Either the officer will be charged with Manslaughter eventually or he will be sued to nonexistance. These stun guns were a good idea on paper but in reality instead of being used "Instead of a firearm" they are being used "Instead of an Arm" Those who go through additional training and lots of time in the books making DAMN sure they know everything about this weapon are the ones that will suffer as these trigger happy *******s eventually get these weapons outlawed. __________________

09-25-08, 03:50 PM	#24
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	She will have the money. Some group will give it to her and she will sue. Hopefully, It will not come to that. This is a case on Manslaughter and needs to be handled in a criminal court. __________________

09-25-08, 04:48 PM	#26
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Too bad for the guy. But he souldnt have been doing what he was. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-25-08, 07:09 PM	#28
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	I feel sorry for the policeman. In Britain, policemen can kill a guy without any provocation at all and do not need to expect to pay a price __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

09-25-08, 03:00 PM	#19
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Im not sure which is more surprising, the fact that they are copying a comic book or the fact that you can read

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Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	As you can see he's able to read and write(or has someone do that for him), but even though I've flown several hours with him in IL2, Teamspeak running and all, I still haven't heard him TALK :rotfl:

09-25-08, 04:43 PM	#25
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	He'll get suspended with pay.