These guys are getting ready to go to war!

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by peterloo

I don't think either Israel or Iran wants to start wars...

If Israel starts war, maybe she can advance rapidly, but don't forget the Iran knows how to fight guerrilla asymmetrical warfare. Furthermore, Iran does process some nice weapons, like RPG-29, or copy of TOW missile, or the best torpedo in the world, and these stuff can definitely deal a heavy punishment to Israel despite her aerial advantage.

Don't forget the ballistic missiles as well~

Huh?? the "Best torpedo in the world"?

You mean that VA-111 Shkval knockoff the Hout? Or that new conventional one the YM somsuch?

The Hout is a joke even midrange 533 mm torpedoes out range it, not to mention range heavyweight 533mm weapons like the MK 48 ADCAP, Spearfish and UGST which have something like four times the range.

Besides the US Navy's VLA ASROCs have greater range and speed than the Hout.

If the Hout is being used by a PTG then Harpoons can deal with the platform from beyond its range, if its from a sub than MK 48s and ASROCs can deal with the platfrom from beyond its range.

[Monica Lewinsky]

Originally Posted by geetrue

Where’s Avon lady when you need her?

right here:

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Huh?? the "Best torpedo in the world"?

If the Hout is being used by a PTG then Harpoons can deal with the platform from beyond its range, if its from a sub than MK 48s and ASROCs can deal with the platfrom from beyond its range.

Reminds me of a sea story ... this one is true, (don't give me that look)

I was just a young 19 year old sonarman on the USS Salmon SS-573 diesel boat back in the spring of 64 ... yes 44 years ago. We were testing the first subroc to be fired from a submerged platform, in this case it was the USS Permit SSN-594 stationed off San Clemente Island which is just off the coast of Southern California.

We were about fifty miles down range when the captain came on the 1mc and said, "Attention all hands the Navy is testing a new weapon called SUBROC ... it's suppose to come out of the Permit like a torpedo and come up to the surface and back down fifty miles later and then be a torpedo again".

The captain then snorts and says, "If anyone hears anything let me know"

Evidently the captain started his speech about the same time they fired it and no sooner did these words come out of his mouth that we were then rocked by a large "bam".

That sucker hit us broadside and after we came back in we had to go to drydock, because it put a four inch dent in the saddle tanks.

This ain't no lie ... I was there.

geetrue

[peterloo]

Don't forget that Iran got several Kilos

If they use Hout, they won't use Kilo to fire it, through. They will definitely use one of their disposable midget submarine. You are right --- Sharvl or Hout is just a last ditch weapon if used in Kilo, as what is shown in Dangerous Waters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current...els#Submarines

They have got many midget subs here! Beware!

[baggygreen]

Peterloo,

I invite you to go to this website http://maps.google.com/ and type in "Bandar Abbas, Iran". On the western edge of the city is the naval base there, with probably half their fleet if not more.

1 airstrike and not a single vessel will be serviceable. It would take several hours for the fleet to be mobilised and start sailing, which would likely be hours too late in the event of an outbreak in hostilities. Unless they have advance warning, ie they decide to do something silly and sortie the fleet in advance...

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by baggygreen

Peterloo,

I invite you to go to this website http://maps.google.com/ and type in "Bandar Abbas, Iran". On the western edge of the city is the naval base there, with probably half their fleet if not more.

1 airstrike and not a single vessel will be serviceable. It would take several hours for the fleet to be mobilised and start sailing, which would likely be hours too late in the event of an outbreak in hostilities. Unless they have advance warning, ie they decide to do something silly and sortie the fleet in advance...

Bah who says we even have to bomb it. We could be real evil and just mine the harbor and the three straits leading to it. Modern USN Mines can discrimnated between warships and civies. And if they send out mine sweeprs blast them with a smart bomb.

Anyone who was aboard the Sam Robers would agree: Payback a B!tch.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Bah who says we even have to bomb it. We could be real evil and just mine the harbor and the three straits leading to it. Modern USN Mines can discrimnated between warships and civies. And if they send out mine sweeprs blast them with a smart bomb.

Anyone who was aboard the Sam Robers would agree: Payback a B!tch.

Sounds like the hopping smiley-mines from the Unreal4ever mod for UT!