Newt Gingrich's website for ticked off voters!

[SUBMAN1]

Woo hoo! I like it!

http://www.americansolutions.com/

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[SUBMAN1]

Did anybody from the USA sign this petition? I think its an important one.

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[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Did anybody from the USA sign this petition? I think its an important one.-S

I didn't. I don't think it's the correct answer. It's just an excuse to give big oil a firmer grip on us and ensure their profits for another 50 years. Alternative fuels, non-petroleum based energy resources are the long term answer.

It's not like we lack the intelligence or technology to come up with real solutions. There is no good excuse for not focusing efforts to a better solution.

Here's congress half-assed attempt at alternative solutions http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/feds-scrape-tog.html As if 30 million is going to accomplish anything at all.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by MothBalls

I didn't. I don't think it's the correct answer. It's just an excuse to give big oil a firmer grip on us and ensure their profits for another 50 years. Alternative fuels, non-petroleum based energy resources are the long term answer.

It's not like we lack the intelligence or technology to come up with real solutions. There is no good excuse for not focusing efforts to a better solution.

Here's congress half-assed attempt at alternative solutions http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/feds-scrape-tog.html As if 30 million is going to accomplish anything at all.

Here's a concept - how about built the techology first, and then switch over to it. You describe a kind of Cart before the Horse concept.

One last thought - the oil companies power does not change regardless of where they are drilling.

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[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Here's a concept - how about built the techology first, and then switch over to it. You describe a kind of Cart before the Horse concept.

Necessity is the mother of invention. If you open up more fields, the necessity for invention is going to be taken away. We already went through this once in the 70's and didn't learn a damn thing, we only made it worse. It's time to pull our heads out of our asses and come up with a real solution for the real problem.

If the global warming crowds are correct, then we solve two problems at the same time. The solutions need to be forced now. We shouldn't focus on band-aid solutions, we need answers, and we need them now.

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

One last thought - the oil companies power does not change regardless of where they are drilling.

The US is a petroleum based economy, period. Everything in this entire country revolves around it, including the military. Without it the nation comes to a grinding halt.

If you make big energy the sole supplier of oil, you think they'll do the right thing? You think they won't gouge us worse than they do now? You want to put our petroleum based nation in the hands of Enron traders?

We need change. We need it now. We don't need more drilling, we need a replacement for it. Renewable, safe, and reliable. Until then, hit Americans where it hurts, where they feel it the most, in the wallet.

Make fuel cheaper for Police, fire, and the trucks that bring things to market, the tools that grow food, just the necessities. Want gas for your SUV? $15 per gallon. You bet your ass that people will start carpooling to the grocery store and using public transportation to get to work.

The reality is that it has to get worse before it gets better, and Americans can't accept that.

[SUBMAN1]

Nope.

First off, the Global Warming crowd are wrong.

Second, it takes energy to make technology.

Third, finding new resources means we won't get gouched by the Saudis.

Forth, regulation can fix the speculators.

Fifth, all economies are based on hydrocarbon energy in the entire world, and if they have to go without, everything grinds to a halt - life as you know it.

Sixth, whats wrong with hydrocarbons if you can provide them for the next 300 years? 300 years worth of hydrocarbon based gas is hardly a band-aid - some people claim we may only have 200 years worth in this country at our present rate of consumption, but 200 to 300 years? Who cares? Kind of puts Saudi Arabia out of the picture, no?

Seventh, why simply transfer the power baton to a new energy mogul? That is all you are describing. Enron guys will simply move next door. They went from Electricity, to oil and gas, to in the future, green tech. They don't care as long as they are getting rich.

Need i go on?

-S