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Old 06-17-08, 06:13 PM   #16
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I like him. I'm voting for him.
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Old 06-17-08, 06:37 PM   #17
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At this point, America is so in love with Obama and his "change" campaign, he could be from mars with three heads and it would not matter. The only change we will see if he becomes president is a change in our taxes...and not a good change.
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if the US repeats the error aussies made in electing kevin Rudd, it isnt going to be very pretty. Change for the sake of change is not a good enough reason..
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Old 06-17-08, 07:01 PM   #18
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I really doubt Obama will get elected. Racial and religious bigotry will see to that.
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Old 06-17-08, 07:08 PM   #19
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I really doubt Obama will get elected. Racial and religious bigotry will see to that.
I believe the debates will be his undoing. He is not qualifed at this point in time.
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Old 06-17-08, 07:09 PM   #20
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I like him. I'm voting for him.
There needs to be more then "liking" a candidate to warrant a vote from me.
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Old 06-17-08, 07:10 PM   #21
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I like him. I'm voting for him.
There needs to be more then "liking" a candidate to warrant a vote from me.
And I am sure there will be a number of people who will be voting for Obama because he aint McCain too.

People vote for candidates for the strangest reasons it appears.
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Old 06-17-08, 07:12 PM   #22
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I really doubt Obama will get elected. Racial and religious bigotry will see to that.
So anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist and/or a religious bigot?

The truth is as many people who wouldn't vote for him because he's black, there are even more who WILL vote for him just because he IS black.
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Old 06-17-08, 07:16 PM   #23
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Could turn out to be a good thing for americans if he is Muslim, might relax the muslims attitude towards Americans, They (hardcore mussies) wont beable to shout slogans 'Americans hate muslims' when the US president is muslim!
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Old 06-17-08, 07:25 PM   #24
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I really doubt Obama will get elected. Racial and religious bigotry will see to that.
So anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist and/or a religious bigot?
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Didn't like the ugly truth huh? I never said anyone who doesnt vote for obama is a racist and a religous bigot. YOU said that. I said that racial and religous bigotry in this country makes it doubtul he'll get elected.
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I really doubt Obama will get elected. Racial and religious bigotry will see to that.
So anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist and/or a religious bigot?
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Didn't like the ugly truth huh? I never said anyone who doesnt vote for obama is a racist and a religous bigot. YOU said that. I said that racial and religous bigotry in this country makes it doubtul he'll get elected.
The ugly truth? I was asking you if that was what you meant. Notice the question mark (?)? Your reply makes me think my assumption was right. You're just attempting to villify the political opposition and being rather blatant at it i might add.

Personally I think if he looses the election (and that's a big if at this point) it will be because he isn't the better of the two candidates for the job. As AVG says this will become evident in the debates.
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I really doubt Obama will get elected. Racial and religious bigotry will see to that.
I believe the debates will be his undoing. He is not qualifed at this point in time.
The debates will indeed be interesting. Neither candidate is a very good debater at all.
Obama is far too wooden when put on the spot, he gives good answers but far too slowly.
McCain is an awful public speaker, I think. He falls over his own positions in normal interviews, I think if Obama trains himself well he can carry the debates.
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You're just attempting to villify the political opposition and being rather blatant at it i might add.
Acutally, This part i ommited out that you said

" there are even more who WILL vote for him just because he IS black."

Is bascially refrence to the "kill whitey" crowd because your taking sides out of poltical interest. So the irony is, YOUR the one whos making poltical statements here. What i said has NOTHING to do with politics. I made a social statement, not a political one. Your looking for something that isn't here pal. So take your political chip on your shoulder and wave it at somebody else. Cause i could give less then a sh*t if your poltical sensabitlies are offended because there are a number of people in this country who say, "I wont vote for a ******!" Thats reality, deal with it.
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Could turn out to be a good thing for americans if he is Muslim, might relax the muslims attitude towards Americans
After September 11 I doubt the attitude of Americans towards muslims wil relax!
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Old 06-17-08, 08:00 PM   #29
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Since im being pissy about being baited into some poltical bull****, i may as well state, i think its awesome Obama has made it as far as he has. A few years ago, a black presidential candidate would have been unthinkable. Our society has made great strides in that regard, but, i still doubt he'll get elected. Truth be told, when my own spouse tells me, "I wont vote for a ******", that left a scar. For all the reasons to reject any candidate, this one was the most crappy to me.

I knew racism was deep seeded in this country, but i didnt know it was under my own roof. I shouldn't be surpised though, she lived in the south most of her life, and i found out about how it is down in places like mississipp once i had been "accepted" by some of the good ole boys down there. Thats when they trust you enough to tell you what they're REALLY thinking, and "the N word" comes up quite often.
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You're just attempting to villify the political opposition and being rather blatant at it i might add.
Acutally, This part i ommited out that you said

" there are even more who WILL vote for him just because he IS black."

Is bascially refrence to the "kill whitey" crowd because your taking sides out of poltical interest. So the irony is, YOUR the one whos making poltical statements here. What i said has NOTHING to do with politics. I made a social statement, not a political one. Your looking for something that isn't here pal. So take your political chip on your shoulder and wave it at somebody else. Cause i could give less then a sh*t if your poltical sensabitlies are offended because there are a number of people in this country who say, "I wont vote for a ******!" Thats reality, deal with it.
First the only chip on a shoulder is yours "pal".

Secondly your social statement is pure crap.

Of course there are racists in EVERY society, just like there are those who will cast their vote for any number of other irrelevant reasons, including some sort of misguided feeling of guilt for an institution that ended in this country almost 150 years ago (which puts paid to your kill whitey attempt at slander) at the cost of a horrible civil war.

That does NOT mean they will effect the election one way or the other. If anything the fact that you believe that is the deciding factor points to your own distorted sense of reality than anything else.
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