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Old 05-26-08, 03:25 AM   #16
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Im sorry to have to report tomi_099 that even the merchants can see you at periscope depth at a range of 2600metres (and this was in 1940)
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Old 05-26-08, 03:58 AM   #17
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I have placed your turm on diffrent subs and they all become visable at periscope depth i even reset periscope depth to 14 and 15 metres but still the same
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Old 05-26-08, 05:18 AM   #18
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Default Detectable at periscope depth

i am not the first to find these problems then i found these postings in your Eye candy thread .

there is a bad news!
Try to use your boat to play the single mission U505. you will find that the DDs can detect you even you are full stop the motor and submerdged.if you are @ periscope depth they will directly fire @ you by thier guns. I think that's because tall antenna you added on the conning tower.
I recently also make a small MOD to detailed the Jumping wire of 7c3 conning tower (just detailed the jumping wire nothing else get touched)and also find the similar problem but a little better than that of yours, that the DD will not directly fire @ u by their guns when you are @ periscope depth. But still seems the DD can easly detect you(the noise meter keeps red all the time even you dive below 260 meter and keep @ 2 knots) .
I do the same test for the stock 7C3 conning tower. Just after the game begins the noise meter keeps in red in about 10+ seconds after the closest DD pass you by the noise meter turn back to green.


Hi All,
As what I have stated, I divided this test into 3 cells - Tomi's 7c3, My 7C3 and stock 7C3. test each cell 3 times. same result as I mentioned on each time. Only the stock 7C3 can successfully hide @ periscope depth in silent run mode without being detected by the DDs. Do not test IXC yet. It seems that even the small touch to the 3d data file can affect the the detectable charactor.


these problems where reported by Schnorchel on the 25.3.2008 :hmm: ......is there a fix i hope so or else you wont live long in the game using this sub. I placed your turm on a IXC.40 and yes they can still see you .P.s is everyone else just sailing around looking at the sub and not attacking anything???.:rotfl:
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Old 05-26-08, 05:38 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by Phoenix1957
i am not the first to find these problems then i found these postings in your Eye candy thread .

there is a bad news!
Try to use your boat to play the single mission U505. you will find that the DDs can detect you even you are full stop the motor and submerdged.if you are @ periscope depth they will directly fire @ you by thier guns. I think that's because tall antenna you added on the conning tower.
I recently also make a small MOD to detailed the Jumping wire of 7c3 conning tower (just detailed the jumping wire nothing else get touched)and also find the similar problem but a little better than that of yours, that the DD will not directly fire @ u by their guns when you are @ periscope depth. But still seems the DD can easly detect you(the noise meter keeps red all the time even you dive below 260 meter and keep @ 2 knots) .
I do the same test for the stock 7C3 conning tower. Just after the game begins the noise meter keeps in red in about 10+ seconds after the closest DD pass you by the noise meter turn back to green.


Hi All,
As what I have stated, I divided this test into 3 cells - Tomi's 7c3, My 7C3 and stock 7C3. test each cell 3 times. same result as I mentioned on each time. Only the stock 7C3 can successfully hide @ periscope depth in silent run mode without being detected by the DDs. Do not test IXC yet. It seems that even the small touch to the 3d data file can affect the the detectable charactor.


these problems where reported by Schnorchel on the 25.3.2008 :hmm: ......is there a fix i hope so or else you wont live long in the game using this sub. I placed your turm on a IXC.40 and yes they can still see you .P.s is everyone else just sailing around looking at the sub and not attacking anything???.:rotfl:
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Old 05-26-08, 06:07 AM   #20
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I have placed your turm on diffrent subs and they all become visable at periscope depth i even reset periscope depth to 14 and 15 metres but still the same
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And with other towers it is the same suppl.-smooth-eats, or is it the new attitude of GWX. Where could the cause be??:hmm:

How can we change that??
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Old 05-26-08, 06:19 AM   #21
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Cheers, zemljace!! :rotfl:

Gute arbeit!
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Old 05-26-08, 06:58 AM   #22
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i placed your turm on a stock/GWX VIIC/42 submarine and they still see you so i think it is something to do with the turm:hmm:
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Old 05-26-08, 07:18 AM   #23
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Oi, Tomi!

Tested your cool Sub: And here a few things!

You are already aware of the Tower Problem!
No problems with other Towers whatsoever! :hmm:
I really wish i could help you there!

And I found out that if one uses your Waterstream for VIIC/41
(Tomi's VIIC/41 water stream ready)
That it adds a cool waterstream to the Sub, but also messes up the smoke of any other ship!

I tested it quite a few times!

With your waterstream I get this!


Dunno if other people get this too!

As soon as I disable this mod and use the Sub only, the problem is no more!:hmm:
Must be Materials.Dat related!?

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Old 05-26-08, 07:46 AM   #24
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Oi, Tomi!

Tested your cool Sub: And here a few things!

You are already aware of the Tower Problem!
No problems with other Towers whatsoever! :hmm:
I really wish i could help you there!

And I found out that if one uses your Waterstream for VIIC/41
(Tomi's VIIC/41 water stream ready)
That it adds a cool waterstream to the Sub, but also messes up the smoke of any other ship!

I tested it quite a few times!

With your waterstream I get this!


Dunno if other people get this too!

As soon as I disable this mod and use the Sub only, the problem is no more!:hmm:
Must be Materials.Dat related!?

Cheers!
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Probably the ships have the same Perent ID as my Waterstrim.
Around to avoid you only the Perent ID (the last number to change) must changing, and with all Waterstrim positions.
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Old 05-26-08, 09:55 AM   #25
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Cant test anymore because the sub will no longer work with the game just crashes back to the desktop now Silent Hunter has stopped working ...

i can Manually enter the turm into the objects folder it works but the same problems arise I.E can be seen at periscope depth.
but i cant get the rest of the sub to work at all manually entering it in or by mod:hmm: Oh well better re-install just in case i mess up............nope its the same
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Old 05-26-08, 02:09 PM   #26
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Hell and blood...
Tomi - i salute you

Sad that in career we have VIIC/41 near at end of the war...
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Old 05-26-08, 05:24 PM   #27
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Amazing work tomi congradz.
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Old 05-26-08, 09:09 PM   #28
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Cant test anymore because the sub will no longer work with the game just crashes back to the desktop now Silent Hunter has stopped working ...

i can Manually enter the turm into the objects folder it works but the same problems arise I.E can be seen at periscope depth.
but i cant get the rest of the sub to work at all manually entering it in or by mod:hmm: Oh well better re-install just in case i mess up............nope its the same
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O.K I does for you a compromise!!
I have done variante for GWX2.0 which I have not published, however,
there in this moment GWX 2.1 has come out.
I published this variante for you to morrow . I fear only this the same problem is.:hmm:

I whod control this object tomorrow for misstake ( problem ).
Tomorrow I would like to check this whether some poligone beyond the Bounderibox are.
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Old 05-27-08, 03:49 AM   #29
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Hallo Komandant Tomi099, seheeeeeeer schoen !
Vielen Dank . Muchas gracias.
Bis bald y buena caza, gute Jagd !
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Old 05-27-08, 03:06 PM   #30
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Quote:
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Cant test anymore because the sub will no longer work with the game just crashes back to the desktop now Silent Hunter has stopped working ...

i can Manually enter the turm into the objects folder it works but the same problems arise I.E can be seen at periscope depth.
but i cant get the rest of the sub to work at all manually entering it in or by mod:hmm: Oh well better re-install just in case i mess up............nope its the same
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[U]SORRY !!! SORRY SORRY !!![/U]

I thank you for your perseverance Phoenix1957.
Excuses I the error found and available you today still another new version to make.
It truely as I it assumed.
A small invisible point outside of the boundery box found,
which discover an immediate that of submarine .
Sorry !! for apology.


PLEASE STOP THE DOWNLOAD I geven you a NEW Version V21 ... Wait a little bit !!!! ( SORRY )



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