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Ding! we have a winner!
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I have to admit, if i were stuck in a hot, stinking hell hole 3rd world country for umpteen months, with people wanting to kill me, IED's blowing up someone i know or heard of every now and then, getting shot at, etc, i think id probably use the koran for target practice too. Infact, i think its pretty damn funny. The truth is, GI's do alot of stupid **** when their frustrated and/or bored. Only difference his little antic/prank managed to escalate past those closest to him. When you do stupid ****, you do it where only your closest buddies will see and no one else.
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This is the kind of thing that wins Al-Qaida about a hundred new recruits a day.
Was this soldier briefed at all on the nuances of the local culture. |
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the incident was indeed uncalled for, its just a book leave it alone. because with a bit of common sense those muslim extremist are always waiting for a western person to do something to their holy items. HunterICX
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I find it interesting that the entire discussion is centered over the issue of the Iraqis demanding the man's head.
It is a sign of Zeitgeist that nobody seems to see how the US decision and the Iraqi demand are two points on the same ladder. It seems that most people here agree that the Koran is worth a career. The Iraqis contend it is worth a life. The justification of a Koran (or Bible, or Sutra, or whatever) being worth a career is IMHO the same one that the Iraqis use to argue for a life. Neither can really be justified - the Koran (and Bible, and sutra ... etc), is after all, a book. If the target had not been labeled "religious", the man would likely have been commended for his initiative in self-training, or at least allowed to pursue his recreation - it is no worse than throwing darts at portraits, for example. But if you can arbitrarily raise the value of a book to being a large chunk of a human life (blowing someone's career arguably qualifies for this given the importance of a career to livelihood), then why not a full life. It is the same "logic" in different extents. Just my two cents. |
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And me! Now if it was a good book...
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And how would the religious right wingnuts react if the insurgency was using the Bible for target practice? Probably the same way.
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It's a shame I couldn't have lended that soldier my copy of Scorpion Down.
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The reaction is far more about the political situation than about books or religion.
Lots of people looking for something little to get angry about because it is easier to focus anger on small, specific things than it is on the broader situation.
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In that part of the world, you could probably get arrested and or put to death if you tossed an old used copy of the Koran into the trash when you purchased a new copy.
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