Burma has the West over a barrel - Page 2

kurtz · 05-19-08, 05:59 AM

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I have a much better alternative plan. Hold criminal offenders and murderers personally responsible and make them suffer bitter tragedy and grief themselves. Send some dozens to some hundred Tomahawks for the private homes of the criminals in uniform and kill them and the next generation. .... but try to assassinate the responsi8ble officers and their families, personally. There is a simply reason behind killing the families as well. It is a reasonable assumption that these gangster have educated their offsprings in the same selfish brutal attitude their fathers are living by.

You'd be surprised how fast they would change their policies regarding incoming international aid. If not for the sake of saving their families, then they will do it for the sake of protecting their houses and possessions.

Did you just finish your Al Qaeda correspondence course or something?

Substitute IED/Suicide Bomber for Tomahawks and this sounds like it came out of a terrorist play book.

Enjoy your solid roof over your head, your warm and safe bed, and enjoy your dinner this evening. Mmmmm, smells lovely. Life can be so pleasant, right? nothing beats a fire in the chimney, the company of friends, a glass of red vine, and having a civilised discussion on philosophy and moral standards.

I thought this was fair comment this is nothing other than terrorism.

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and you will have triggered creative thought processes in the braisn of two hundred other generals and colonels

Well, that would be a first.

Actually, considering the Burmese oilfields I'm surprised the International Community haven't attempted to destabilise/destroy the regime so they could step in and 'help'. After all I susdpect it went some way to convincing Imperial Japan to liberate the Burmese people from Western Imperialism, that's what I meant by some parrallels.

Skybird · 05-19-08, 06:12 AM

Terrorism I call it to allow thousands dying just to respect the interests of some dozen perpetrators. It also is complicity in my book.

"Tolerance of evil is a crime." (Thomas Mann)

bradclark1 · 05-19-08, 09:05 AM

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Stop delivering supplies. Bombard the place with leaflets saying the junta won't allow help. The world can't be responsible for those that won't accept help but on their terms.

And then what are they supposed to do? Rise up like we got the Kurds to do in Iraq?

It's not about what we get them to do. We/us aren't responsible for them.
Unless we are prepared to take the junta and their supporters (which is probably most of the officer corps) out and replace replace them with a UN backed group it's not our business. If the junta wants to let them die rather than allow aid in then thats up to them. If the UN doesn't do anything then as cold as it sounds "Oh well". All we are doing right now is backing a dictatorship. Thats what we are doing. We are aiding the junta and feeding their machine. Screw being goody two shoes unless you have an iron fist behind it.

August · 05-19-08, 09:56 AM

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Terrorism I call it to allow thousands dying just to respect the interests of some dozen perpetrators. It also is complicity in my book.

"Tolerance of evil is a crime." (Thomas Mann)

And it's NOT evil to tolerate the deliberate murder of a small child just because you don't like her daddy?

Hypocracy thy name is Skybird.

mrbeast · 05-19-08, 05:13 PM

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"Tolerance of evil is a crime."

Indeed, but surely two evils don't make a good.

SUBMAN1 · 05-19-08, 05:26 PM

Ouch. I do not support invasion of a sovereign country when there is no harm done against the west by this country. I do not support assasination here either. I bet these leaders however have another thing coming if their population gets demorilized far enough.

As said above, two evils...

-S

MothBalls · 05-19-08, 06:54 PM

Two wrongs don't make a right. Even Bush knows that.

That's why he decided to see if three wrongs make a right, or maybe four, or five.....

SUBMAN1 · 05-19-08, 06:55 PM

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Two wrongs don't make a right. Even Bush knows that.

That's why he decided to see if three wrongs make a right, or maybe four, or five.....

Please...

Platapus · 05-19-08, 06:58 PM

Two wrongs don't make a right

But two wrights do make an airplane

MothBalls · 05-19-08, 07:14 PM

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Two wrongs don't make a right

Three lefts make a right.

bradclark1 · 05-19-08, 07:19 PM

What is for the greater good?

kurtz · 05-20-08, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Terrorism I call it to allow thousands dying just to respect the interests of some dozen perpetrators. It also is complicity in my book.

"Tolerance of evil is a crime." (Thomas Mann)

You can call it what you want but it doesn't make it so.

Complicity? with a cyclone?

Iceman · 05-20-08, 01:17 PM

Every word spoken a man shall give account for in the great day.As well every deed wether it be good or evil shall be brought to light and thrown into fire and tried.

A man must decide what is right and wrong himself and live accordingly.

What is happening there seems to me to amount to genocide....hence those responsible will be punished as well as those who have the power to act and do not.

Flying over the airspace, littering the area with supplies seems the "Least" we can do "Now"....NOW.

Skybird · 05-20-08, 01:44 PM

In the end, Kurtz, what you say helps to make sure that many hundred times as many people eventually die and those responsible for it get away with it, than would die by what I suggest. That is your civilised, moral superiority and sophisticated sense of humanism.

I don't tell you you can be proud of that - for I am sure you already are.

kurtz · 05-20-08, 04:32 PM

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In the end, Kurtz, what you say helps to make sure that many hundred times as many people eventually die and those responsible for it get away with it, than would die by what I suggest. That is your civilised, moral superiority and sophisticated sense of humanism.

I don't tell you you can be proud of that - for I am sure you already are.

And what you say prevents it?

What I don't want is for us to hand our a carte blanche to governments to invade a country because it's oppresing it's own people and has a oil. I don't think we're so very different, you and I.

05-19-08, 06:12 AM	#17
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Terrorism I call it to allow thousands dying just to respect the interests of some dozen perpetrators. It also is complicity in my book. "Tolerance of evil is a crime." (Thomas Mann) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ouch. I do not support invasion of a sovereign country when there is no harm done against the west by this country. I do not support assasination here either. I bet these leaders however have another thing coming if their population gets demorilized far enough. As said above, two evils... -S __________________

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,373 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Two wrongs don't make a right But two wrights do make an airplane __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	What is for the greater good? __________________

05-20-08, 01:44 PM	#29
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In the end, Kurtz, what you say helps to make sure that many hundred times as many people eventually die and those responsible for it get away with it, than would die by what I suggest. That is your civilised, moral superiority and sophisticated sense of humanism. I don't tell you you can be proud of that - for I am sure you already are. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Two wrongs don't make a right. Even Bush knows that. That's why he decided to see if three wrongs make a right, or maybe four, or five.....

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Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Every word spoken a man shall give account for in the great day.As well every deed wether it be good or evil shall be brought to light and thrown into fire and tried. A man must decide what is right and wrong himself and live accordingly. What is happening there seems to me to amount to genocide....hence those responsible will be punished as well as those who have the power to act and do not. Flying over the airspace, littering the area with supplies seems the "Least" we can do "Now"....NOW.