There are some very sick people in the world - Page 2

Ducimus · 04-10-08, 03:38 PM

>>There are some very sick people in the world

You're just now discovering this?

People bad mouth, walk on, crap on, and do tasteless crap directed at us all over the world, every day. Its nothing new. Or is this the first time you got a good wiff of it?

Konovalov · 04-10-08, 03:43 PM

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Can't say I like it, but provocative and nude performances in german theatres and operas is nothing new. It's part of artistic freedom - and that includes the freedom of showing bad taste, too, which happens often in german theatre and opera productions. Where freedom usually is accepted to eventually produce conflict and critical comment, or heartbreaking, hysterically exaggerated pathos - there must be freedom for the other extreme as well. That'S what it is about, this freedom. You either take both the light and the shadow - or you are left with only the darkness.

People are also free to buy a ticket - or not. that also is a freedom. the latter is the choice I would make. Was dem einen recht ist, ist dem anderen billig: we had the Fitna movie. Now we have the arab reaction to Fitna: .

And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it.

Exactly. Well said.

STEED · 04-10-08, 03:43 PM

I do believe the more you rant against these people the bigger there smile. Sorry to say that, but it's true. Seen it so many times I lost count, they love to shock people and upset them while another percentage think it's cool.

Sad world we live in...................

FIREWALL · 04-10-08, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

>>There are some very sick people in the world

You're just now discovering this?

People bad mouth, walk on, crap on, and do tasteless crap directed at us all over the world, every day. Its nothing new. Or is this the first time you got a good wiff of it?

I'd like to see or hear of one country just ONE that has ever given us even one dollar much less millions.

I notice that most who bash USA don't have the balls to put what country under their avatar there from.

It would put everyone on an even playing field.

SUBMAN1 · 04-10-08, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

...And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it.

Exactly. Well said.

No entirely. This is coming from a country that promotes US bashing, yet at the same time has a ban on freedom of speech? The swastika for example. There is no real freedom of speech in Germany.

-S

Konovalov · 04-10-08, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

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Originally Posted by Skybird

...And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it.

Exactly. Well said.

No entirely. This is coming from a country that promotes US bashing, yet at the same time has a ban on freedom of speech? The swastika for example. There is no real freedom of speech in Germany.

-S

Apart from the Swastika example for obvious reasons can you give a broad list of examples to support your claim that "there is no real freedom of speech in Germany"?

FIREWALL · 04-10-08, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

>>There are some very sick people in the world

You're just now discovering this?

People bad mouth, walk on, crap on, and do tasteless crap directed at us all over the world, every day. Its nothing new. Or is this the first time you got a good wiff of it?

I'd like to see or hear of one country just ONE that has ever given us even one dollar much less millions.

I notice that most who bash USA don't have the balls to put what country under their avatar there from.

It would put everyone on an even playing field.

To All : READ THE ABOVE

Trex · 04-10-08, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

No entirely. This is coming from a country that promotes US bashing, yet at the same time has a ban on freedom of speech? The swastika for example. There is no real freedom of speech in Germany.

Citing one example, in this case the ban on Nazi symbols, as proving a lack of free speech is dangerous. For instance, it is illegal in the UK to 'glorify' terrorism. Does that mean that the UK does not have free speech? Hardly.

FIREWALL · 04-10-08, 04:14 PM

Sadly I think the UK Politicaly and economicaly is slowly becomeing a third world country.

STEED · 04-10-08, 04:27 PM

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Sadly I think the UK Politicaly and economicaly is slowly becomeing a third world country.

A solid cold hard fact which I've known for a very long time. People will not get off there fat ass to vote as they say, "Voting changes nothing."

And Politicians like to keep it at that, I'm paying more and more TAX and my gas & electric bills have gone up so much I've had it up to here.

People in this country will sit in horse crap for the rest of there lives as long as they have there soaps, sport and gadgets to worship.

Tchocky · 04-10-08, 04:31 PM

I'm not sure how you can say that with a straight face, STEED. In a 3rd World country you don't get to pay gas and electric bills.

STEED · 04-10-08, 04:40 PM

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I'm not sure how you can say that with a straight face, STEED. In a 3rd World country you don't get to pay gas and electric bills.

The UK is falling apart and no one has the guts to grab the nettle even if makes there hand bleed to sort the mess out.

N.H.S now ranks below Poland's Health Service.

I got to wait five weeks to see a GP and this one for the earliest slot I could get.

My own Farther has to wait more than a year for an operation and he's in a lot of pain. So bloody much for this Labour Government telling us all everything is ticker-t-bo.

mrbeast · 04-10-08, 04:47 PM

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/...546635,00.html

No words possible for that.

Time to start a play about the Germans love for killing jews in my opinion. Its along the same lines.

-S

Seems a bit ironic really but this is almost like some of the outrage over Fitna but in reverse.

If you want freedom of speech Subman you have to take the rough with the smooth I'm afraid.

BTW all sounds like a bunch of pretentious tripe to me, the opera that is.

Konovalov · 04-10-08, 04:51 PM

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Seems a bit ironic really but this is almost like some of the outrage over Fitna but in reverse.

If want freedom of speech Subman you have to take the rough with the smooth I'm afraid.

BTW all sounds like a bunch of pretentious tripe to me, the opera that is.

I don't think you are the first to have such a thought. Throwing stones and glass houses I'd say.

Platapus · 04-10-08, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I'd like to see or hear of one country just ONE that has ever given us even one dollar much less millions.

Poland. I believe Poland paid us their debt for World War II

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	>>There are some very sick people in the world You're just now discovering this? People bad mouth, walk on, crap on, and do tasteless crap directed at us all over the world, every day. Its nothing new. Or is this the first time you got a good wiff of it?