Re-introducing the Iron Cross? - Page 2

Skybird · 03-06-08, 10:00 AM

The defense minister is in favour of it, as are some federal politicians and the vast majority of the army as well. But we have the SPD. The Greens. The alliance of former SED and DKP, now called Die Linke.

Supporting this idea, I nevertheless fear that the left will rate a debate about a new fairground here, and more immigration there, as more important than this "militaristic stuff". It also has the suspicious odour of elitism on it, so... go figure. We have medals for service time. For the Oder-flooding. For social compatability of service, which now is considered to be of honour. While all that is nice and well, it is not the same to risk your life for a purpose going beyond your own life.

But who needs a medal for valour for serving beyond duty while under fire, or courage in the face of the enemy? What enemy, btw?

We probably make ourselves enemies by getting back this medal, you see.

we better get a medal for extraordinary peaceful behavior.

Rockstar · 03-06-08, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

But who needs a medal for valour for serving beyond duty while under fire, or courage in the face of the enemy? What enemy, btw?

We probably make ourselves enemies by getting back this medal, you see.

we better get a medal for extraordinary peaceful behavior.

You have enemies and being a pacifist err I mean peaceful nation only invites those who have different ideals and are willing to wage war to promote it to come against you. Peace is a wonderful thing but I always view germans being too afraid of the past to beat the snot out of the neighborhood bully.

You seem to be a reasonable person Skybird hard for you to be my enemy even if you decided to where an Iron Cross

trekchu · 03-06-08, 04:17 PM

I for my part believe that we do need a medal for valor. I am also in favour of bringing the napoleonic-eara design or a slightly altered one. ( meaning that the new one would be modelled after the one we currently paint on our Panzers )

However I think that it won't go through for a variety of reasons, the main ones beeing several parties, at least "Die Linke" and the Greens beeing against it. The SPD... dunno. Other reasons are that the historical burden the cross has might be seen as to heavy by some. ( not me thats for sure, as much as I despise the Nazis, and the communists for that matter. )

Skybird · 03-06-08, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

But who needs a medal for valour for serving beyond duty while under fire, or courage in the face of the enemy? What enemy, btw?

We probably make ourselves enemies by getting back this medal, you see.

we better get a medal for extraordinary peaceful behavior.

You have enemies and being a pacifist err I mean peaceful nation only invites those who have different ideals and are willing to wage war to promote it to come against you. Peace is a wonderful thing but I always view germans being too afraid of the past to beat the snot out of the neighborhood bully.

You seem to be a reasonable person Skybird hard for you to be my enemy even if you decided to where an Iron Cross

I tried to be ironic, if you haven't noticed that - or maybe I failed miserably with my attempt.

Tchocky · 03-06-08, 10:04 AM

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I was going through my dads stuff after him passing recently , and found a few medals from his father (my grandfather), including the iron cross, which apparently he got on the eastern front.It really is a beautiful medal ,i hope they re-introduce it.

I have an IC 1st class that was awarded to my Great Grandfather in the 1st world war.

I've got one of these in my pocket.
Not through the family, though

03-06-08, 10:00 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The defense minister is in favour of it, as are some federal politicians and the vast majority of the army as well. But we have the SPD. The Greens. The alliance of former SED and DKP, now called Die Linke. Supporting this idea, I nevertheless fear that the left will rate a debate about a new fairground here, and more immigration there, as more important than this "militaristic stuff". It also has the suspicious odour of elitism on it, so... go figure. We have medals for service time. For the Oder-flooding. For social compatability of service, which now is considered to be of honour. While all that is nice and well, it is not the same to risk your life for a purpose going beyond your own life. But who needs a medal for valour for serving beyond duty while under fire, or courage in the face of the enemy? What enemy, btw? We probably make ourselves enemies by getting back this medal, you see. we better get a medal for extraordinary peaceful behavior. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-06-08, 04:17 PM	#3
trekchu A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Dalek Empire Posts: 75 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I for my part believe that we do need a medal for valor. I am also in favour of bringing the napoleonic-eara design or a slightly altered one. ( meaning that the new one would be modelled after the one we currently paint on our Panzers ) However I think that it won't go through for a variety of reasons, the main ones beeing several parties, at least "Die Linke" and the Greens beeing against it. The SPD... dunno. Other reasons are that the historical burden the cross has might be seen as to heavy by some. ( not me thats for sure, as much as I despise the Nazis, and the communists for that matter. )