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Old 02-03-08, 12:13 PM   #16
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wonder how hard it is to row in with men in commando boats with fuel oil, fill er up and slip away under the cover of night :hmm:
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Old 02-03-08, 02:11 PM   #17
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wonder how hard it is to row in with men in commando boats with fuel oil, fill er up and slip away under the cover of night :hmm:
There is a how to movie out there. All we nee is:
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We just have to be sure ther is no cook/Navy SEAL on board at the time.
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Old 02-03-08, 04:59 PM   #18
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wonder how hard it is to row in with men in commando boats with fuel oil, fill er up and slip away under the cover of night :hmm:
There is a how to movie out there. All we nee is:
  • WWII Submarine
  • Palyboy Playmate in a large cake
  • Guns
  • Tomy Lee Jones
We just have to be sure ther is no cook/Navy SEAL on board at the time.
Don't worry, he's harmless, just a chef

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Old 02-03-08, 10:03 PM   #19
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wonder how hard it is to row in with men in commando boats with fuel oil, fill er up and slip away under the cover of night :hmm:
There is a how to movie out there. All we nee is:
  • WWII Submarine
  • Palyboy Playmate in a large cake
  • Guns
  • Tomy Lee Jones
We just have to be sure ther is no cook/Navy SEAL on board at the time.
Actually I prefer this how-to movie: Assault on a queen. Why take over a battlewagon when you can stick-up a passenger liner full of affluent people?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060135/
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Old 02-04-08, 07:49 AM   #20
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wonder how hard it is to row in with men in commando boats with fuel oil, fill er up and slip away under the cover of night :hmm:
Should be pretty easy as long as you've gat a commando boat the size of a fleet Auxiliary for all that fuel oil.
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Yeah, it's tough to carry over 2 million gallons of fuel oil in your pockets
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Just out of curiosity, how much fuel oil would it take to get a large capital ship ready to leave port? :hmm:

I'm talking just to raise steam here even without going anywhere.
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Old 02-05-08, 01:59 AM   #23
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Just out of curiosity, how much fuel oil would it take to get a large capital ship ready to leave port? :hmm:

I'm talking just to raise steam here even without going anywhere.
Depends on the ship. Is it steam, GT, diesel? Ships have to conduct MLOC's prior to get underway. That includes aligning/ensuring proper alignment of the lube oil system, starting the lube oil system, testing the L/O alarms, placing the main engine on the jack, ensuring all hazards are removed from the space, rotating machinery by hand, and more preperations than you can shake a stick at. Each ship's requirements differ. If it is a steam powered ship, it depends on the boilers and the required time to raise steam. This also depends on your boiler layup as well. If it is say under steam blanket then the prescribed time to bring the boiler on the line will be less than if the ship was on say a hydrazine/morpholine layup and cold.

Let's say it is going to take about 4 hours to raise steam prior to coming on line, You are not supposed to go above 5% of 100% boiler load while raising steam in the boiler (unless it is an emergency), and also you can not go above a (depending on the boiler and manufacturer) prescribed superheater outlet temp with both the main and aux steam stops shut. While lit off with the light off sprayer plate (some ships just have one standard size sprayer plate) say, we are burning to start, 80 GPH, as the pressure rises and more fuel is required and as we start warming up the steam lines and start our auxiliaries (for the first boiler on the line cold boiler you will come in on the auxiliary steam stop from around 200 - 400 PSI so you can start your feed pumps and maintain normal boiler water level and then come in on the main at 600 PSI, on CE600V2M D-type, 700PSI and if you are X-connected you will wait until 600 psi to bring your boiler on the line because you will drag the other one off the line) we will require more fuel to support the increase of steam demand. So in the 4 hours until we are on line say we burned 590 Gal of DFM. Then you start your SSTG's, and your standby blowers, feed pumps, etc. So then you burn more fuel. Then you test main engines and prepare to get underway. Say we waited 10 hrs from the time we started we burned around 230 GPH per boiler and say we have 2 boilers on line we have since burned 3,350 Gallons of fuel for those 10 hrs. That equals to about $9000+. To save fuel we could have used only one TG in each plant running and our standby equipment ready for single valve operation, and also adjusted our fuel air ratio therefore reducing the speed of the blower, therefore using less steam. Conserve steam and save fuel. The above numbers are variable depending on the plant set up, GT ships burn even more fuel. I tried to explain in easy terms and hope this answers your question.

As for my stance on the Iowa's Ishmael, read my signature. That was great you got to meet a WW2 Vet . Hopefully they can raise the funds for the Iowa. They have to ensure they adhere to strict guidelines though. Although they are stricken from the NVR, congress mandated that they are still mobilization assets and have to be maintained accordingly.
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