[REL] Historically accurate 4-Bladed propellers for all Subs - Page 2

kapitan_zur_see · 01-22-08, 09:28 PM

Glad you like it

Can't tell you much for now or be sure of if i'll be capable to release it, but i'm working on something way bigger

Think about the Narwhal but 3D modelled :hmm:
i've started working on blueprints i've gathered...
I think i could handle it with minor "not exactly 100% faithfull". But it will be a real narwhal model at the correct scale ingame

Ducimus · 01-22-08, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kapitan_zur_see

Glad you like it

Can't tell you much for now or be sure of if i'll be capable to release it, but i'm working on something way bigger

Think about the Narwhal but 3D modelled :hmm:
i've started working on blueprints i've gathered...
I think i could handle it with minor "not exactly 100% faithfull". But it will be a real narwhal model at the correct scale ingame

THat be pretty sweet. I knew at some point someone would try to make a better narhwal mod. I didnt call my narhwall "psuedo narwhal" for nothing. 3d modeling is a skillset not present in my modding toolbox. Hell, i can't even view 3d models, let alone make any.

Reece · 01-23-08, 01:01 AM

Excellent job! Thanks very much!

Ducimus · 01-23-08, 04:41 AM

Just tried the mod out. Pretty spiffy!

I have two questions:

1.) The dat files you used are from the latest ROW sub reflectioins?

2.) Mind if i include it in the lastest TM build im still slaving away on?

andycaccia · 01-23-08, 05:28 AM

Hi, about propeller direction I've checked the differences between your mod and both the stock game (ver 1.4) and propeller fix mod. Actually the propellers blades direction in your mod is the same as the stock game, while the "fixed" propellers have the opposite blade direction. Thay always turn clockwise (left propeller shaft) and couter-clockwise (right propeller shaft) both in stock game and with mods installed. So the propelelr fix simply (well, not very simply) changed the blades directions to make it compatible with the turning directions of the propeller shaft which actualy remained unchanged. I do not have RFB, nor TM, so I do non know If they change something...but I fear the only way we have to restore the correct propeller rotation is to change the blades directions, unless we find how to change the rotation itself (in other words we should set the Left Propeller to run counterclockwise and the right one clockwise).

Any Idea??:hmm:

kapitan_zur_see · 01-23-08, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Just tried the mod out. Pretty spiffy!

I have two questions:

1.) The dat files you used are from the latest ROW sub reflectioins?

2.) Mind if i include it in the lastest TM build im still slaving away on?

1.) Yes, it's from latest ROW

2.) Go ahead

thanks for asking

pythos · 01-23-08, 08:47 AM

Nice mod, but a problem. The porpoise, Sargo, and Tambor, had three bladed props. The four bladed did not come out until the advent of the Gato class. All boats after had the four bladed model. I think the Balao had one step further and some had a strange looking 5 bladed prop. Not sure on, more research needed.

kapitan_zur_see · 01-23-08, 12:59 PM

interesting...
Tell me if you discover more about it

andycaccia · 01-23-08, 01:10 PM

Any clue about the wrong direction of the propeller rotation? They rotate as moving backward. How can I correct this, kapitan?

"no solutions on sight, Sir !!"

Donner · 01-23-08, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pythos

Nice mod, but a problem. The porpoise, Sargo, and Tambor, had three bladed props. The four bladed did not come out until the advent of the Gato class. All boats after had the four bladed model.

Correct! According to Norman Friedman, author of US Submarines Through 1945: An Illustrated Design History, three bladed props were the norm until Gato-class. I find no mention of five-bladed props for the Balao's. Perhaps this was done after the war?

Cheers!

kapitan_zur_see · 01-23-08, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andycaccia

Any clue about the wrong direction of the propeller rotation? They rotate as moving backward. How can I correct this, kapitan?

"no solutions on sight, Sir !!"

nope, sorry

If i understand correct, it looks like most of my mod is to get rid unless gato class lol
Going back to work on other things for the moment...

Will-Rommel · 01-23-08, 03:53 PM

Personnally, the idea that 4 bladed props didn't see action before the Gato release isn't bothering me that much.

I love those new propellers, good skin, great textures (compared to the stock 3 blades) and nice motion to watch.

Donner · 01-23-08, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Will-Rommel

Personnally, the idea that 4 bladed props didn't see action before the Gato release isn't bothering me that much.

I love those new propellers, good skin, great textures (compared to the stock 3 blades) and nice motion to watch.

It doesn't bother me either. I did some research and threw my findings out there. Whatever kapitan chooses to do is ok by me...

I am impatiently waiting on more info on his Narwhal creation!

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-23-08, 04:09 PM

You da man! Tried it out in TM and it looks spiffy!

Like the swirl effects on it too. Gonna use it on RFB and see. Shouldn't make much of a difference. Again nice job!

donut · 01-23-08, 04:37 PM

Pitch is hard to see. Thought they were turning wrong though !:hmm: If it isn't one thing it's another,

01-22-08, 09:28 PM	#16
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Glad you like it Can't tell you much for now or be sure of if i'll be capable to release it, but i'm working on something way bigger Think about the Narwhal but 3D modelled :hmm: i've started working on blueprints i've gathered... I think i could handle it with minor "not exactly 100% faithfull". But it will be a real narwhal model at the correct scale ingame __________________

01-23-08, 01:01 AM	#18
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,695 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Excellent job! Thanks very much! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

01-23-08, 05:28 AM	#20
andycaccia XO Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 418 Downloads: 261 Uploads: 2	Hi, about propeller direction I've checked the differences between your mod and both the stock game (ver 1.4) and propeller fix mod. Actually the propellers blades direction in your mod is the same as the stock game, while the "fixed" propellers have the opposite blade direction. Thay always turn clockwise (left propeller shaft) and couter-clockwise (right propeller shaft) both in stock game and with mods installed. So the propelelr fix simply (well, not very simply) changed the blades directions to make it compatible with the turning directions of the propeller shaft which actualy remained unchanged. I do not have RFB, nor TM, so I do non know If they change something...but I fear the only way we have to restore the correct propeller rotation is to change the blades directions, unless we find how to change the rotation itself (in other words we should set the Left Propeller to run counterclockwise and the right one clockwise). Any Idea??:hmm: __________________ "Memento Audere Semper"

01-23-08, 12:59 PM	#23
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	interesting... Tell me if you discover more about it __________________

01-23-08, 01:10 PM	#24
andycaccia XO Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 418 Downloads: 261 Uploads: 2	Any clue about the wrong direction of the propeller rotation? They rotate as moving backward. How can I correct this, kapitan? "no solutions on sight, Sir !!" __________________ "Memento Audere Semper"

01-23-08, 04:41 AM	#19
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Just tried the mod out. Pretty spiffy! I have two questions: 1.) The dat files you used are from the latest ROW sub reflectioins? 2.) Mind if i include it in the lastest TM build im still slaving away on?

01-23-08, 08:47 AM	#22
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Nice mod, but a problem. The porpoise, Sargo, and Tambor, had three bladed props. The four bladed did not come out until the advent of the Gato class. All boats after had the four bladed model. I think the Balao had one step further and some had a strange looking 5 bladed prop. Not sure on, more research needed.

01-23-08, 03:53 PM	#27
Will-Rommel Chief Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 320 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Personnally, the idea that 4 bladed props didn't see action before the Gato release isn't bothering me that much. I love those new propellers, good skin, great textures (compared to the stock 3 blades) and nice motion to watch.

01-23-08, 04:09 PM	#29
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	You da man! Tried it out in TM and it looks spiffy! Like the swirl effects on it too. Gonna use it on RFB and see. Shouldn't make much of a difference. Again nice job!

01-23-08, 04:37 PM	#30
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Remembering Capt.Cox got stock turning corectly ? Pitch is hard to see. Thought they were turning wrong though !:hmm: If it isn't one thing it's another, Last edited by donut; 01-23-08 at 06:32 PM.