Not going to your patrol grid

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!

You will not rec'd any points nor we you loose any.

[BulSoldier]

I think it should stay.It gives me an area witch i should patrol.If that happens i will never go to america or somewhere more than 1500km.

[Tobus]

Originally Posted by danlisa

Of course, adding the renown back in is easy.

Ooohhh, do tell us how?!

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by Tobus

Ooohhh, do tell us how?!

basic.cfg

[3Jane]

Originally Posted by danlisa

basic.cfg

But in my view replacing the lost renown still won't replace the lost aspects of an imersive career.

[danlisa]

<sigh> My last word on this.

The basic.cfg holds the renown award for reaching/patroling & returning to base.

Add it back in, remove it or put it at an unusally high amount.

[Steel_Tomb]

Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

so in stock is there no loss for not going? im in the med and it keeps telling me to go back through gibraltar! i made that trip once, im not friggin doin it again!!!!!!

I thought it was impossible to go back out through the straights of Gib? Because of the currents you cant get back out submerged.

[3Jane]

I would still like to know what the rationale was behind the decision though. I know about the basic config files, so if 2.1 removes the renown that aspect of it can be overridden by putting the renown scores back in as an automatic part of the normal game?. The whole point as I see it is, the renown for reaching your assigned grid position is an inducement to 'follow orders' as it were and thus adding to the imersive simulation of the career.

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by 3Jane

I would still like to know what the rationale was behind the decision though.

The renown system in SH3 is flawed anyway. I think we all agree on that.

The decision to drop the awarded destination renown was made because in real life, the U-Boat crews wouldn't have been awarded anything, either in terms of notoriety or upgrades, for just following orders. So we are going to replicate this in game.

Yes, we are aware that this is just a game and as such is limited by it's set rules but there is no getting away from the fact that the primary role of the U-Boat was to sink shipping. Not to go to their assigned grid and then get a golden handshake.

Casual players will be able to head straight for the shipping lanes.

Realistic players will still follow their orders, patrol the assigned grid and then conduct a search for shipping.

Please remember, real life crews remained in their assigned grid or transited to the adjacent grid in search for shipping. They did not visit their grid just off the entrance of Gib and then transit all the way to tanker alley.

This change just brings another aspect/choice to the game.

[3Jane]

Thanks, I was just wondering about it all.

[flag4]

keep knots between 5 and 7. crank-up the tc's. be informed by your navigator as to how long your present speed will give you in distance, to your patrol grid; callculate this for your distance home....

....you'll make it !

[Subwolf]

Originally Posted by STEED

The whole stinking renown system should be dumped, if possible.

It's a tonnage war not a bloody points war.

I couldn't agree more.

In my opinion GWX shouldn't mess with the renown system, or simply remove it if possible. They want to remove the patrol grid renown because it's unrealistic, fair enough, but then it becomes a lot harder to get upgrades etc, not very realistic either.

Medals and ranks should be based on tonnage sunk only, upgrades/new boat/better crew should become available after a specific number of successful patrols. Having to "buy" an officer with more skills isn't very realistic is it? GWX team please get rid of the renown.

[Blacklight]

Ok.. I'm going to go for it. I usually do run my Uboat on the surface around 8 knots. I'm going to head up north of Scapa Flow and then turn southwestward toward my assigned grid.

What's the best method I should use to conserve fuel so that I can drive myself back ? What I usually do is dive and go at about 4 knots then surface to recharge at around 8 knots, and then dive again...and repeat the process.

I always drive back to port after each mission and never warp back...and it looks like they just dropped a milk cow right near my patrol grid too. They must really love me !

[Tobus]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Ok.. I'm going to go for it. I usually do run my Uboat on the surface around 8 knots. I'm going to head up north of Scapa Flow and then turn southwestward toward my assigned grid.

What's the best method I should use to conserve fuel so that I can drive myself back ? What I usually do is dive and go at about 4 knots then surface to recharge at around 8 knots, and then dive again...and repeat the process.

I always drive back to port after each mission and never warp back...and it looks like they just dropped a milk cow right near my patrol grid too. They must really love me !

Well, going under isn't going to save you fuel. This because the diesels burn plenty more fuel to get the batteries full again. After surfacing and setting speed to 8 kts means your engines burn fuel at about a normal speed of 12 kts to both power the boat and charge the batteries.

What I normally do is set speed at 8 kts manually. You can let your navigator report on range on current speed while playing around with set speed. My experience is that 8 kts is the speed where uboats get the most range. Note that sailing deep is better in lousy weather in GWX2, because heavy seas and wind give your diesels much more work and thus lower fueleconomy.

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Originally Posted by Tobus

Well, going under isn't going to save you fuel. This because the diesels burn plenty more fuel to get the batteries full again. After surfacing and setting speed to 8 kts means your engines burn fuel at about a normal speed of 12 kts to both power the boat and charge the batteries.

As far as I know charging batteries doesn't consume any diesel fuel at all IN THE GAME. It's unrealistic, but probably not moddable (someone would have fixed it if it was).

Optimum speed for VIIb type is 8.25 knots and after upgrading with GW Kapselgeblase it's 8.5 knots. The value is different for other types of boats.