Nvidia tweaks to SH3/SH4

[Rubini]

Hi Sailor _X,

Yes, nhancer no longer. I also use Sh3 nvidia control pannel and the Nvidia Inspector.

My settings on nvidia inspector is below.

Some comments and tips:

1. The settings and tips continues almost the same that we have on the first post when using nhancer
2. If you dont have sun halo please report to your nvidia control pannel and *DISABLE* the gamma correction in your global and sh3 settings (and obviously on the nvidia Inspector too). Double check here!
3. I added a 4x sparse grid ssaa and the related negative texture lod that seems to add some better visuals (just allowed using nvidia inspector I think)
4. Anyway, seems that actually using only the Nvidia control pannel (with that basic tips: max 4xMSAA and no gamma correction) is enough to have a good/best nvidia image for sh3, no more necessary to use Nvidia Inspector or anything more then.

[Red Devil]

I tried the link rubini to nhancer, it says no such site???

[Fubar2Niner]

Originally Posted by Red Devil

I tried the link rubini to nhancer, it says no such site???

Here for Nvidia Inspector:


https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaPro...s/tag/2.3.0.13


Then d/l my *.nip file and use NI to import it.


Nip file here:


https://www.mediafire.com/file/o7egd...r_III.nip/file


Good luck, any probs hoot!


Fube

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Funny, I thought everything looked great. I'll try the nhancer and check back.

Why in all our screenie postings do the nVidia cards consistently have better renderings than ATI cards. Time after time ATI owners say that even though they don't see the solar halo they like their images. I have never encountered an nVidia owner saying they have a problem with sun halo, and seldom with any of the other problems mentioned. Color me skeptic, but I'm checking anyway.

Back in the day when I "upgraded" my ATI 7800 PRO to a NVIDIA 6800, I noticed waves in the distance shimmered and were jaggy. I bet this is why... (the compatability mode).

Then when I bought my new rig with twin 8800GTs I still have the crappy wave shimmer/jaggies in the distance, as well as now with SH4 I have a HALO around my sub.

[Meridian]

Yeah, I have that luminus white halo at night and just can't get rid of it. Bloody annoying and looks terrible, almost looks as if the subs been lit up with a flare.

Tried the fix that was posted elsewhere in the forums but it didn't work.

[Rubini]

Originally Posted by Faamecanic

Back in the day when I "upgraded" my ATI 7800 PRO to a NVIDIA 6800, I noticed waves in the distance shimmered and were jaggy. I bet this is why... (the compatability mode).

Then when I bought my new rig with twin 8800GTs I still have the crappy wave shimmer/jaggies in the distance, as well as now with SH4 I have a HALO around my sub.

Yes, this is what I have tried to say with this thread: the guys that already had an ATI card note the difference in image quality at the first moment that they start the game with a Nvidia card: jaggies and impossible to have the same quality than we had with ATI (even because if you try to use the same very good type of AA you will end in poor FPS or little bugs).

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Rubini

Yes, this is what I have tried to say with this thread: the guys that already had an ATI card note the difference in image quality at the first moment that they start the game with a Nvidia card: jaggies and impossible to have the same quality than we had with ATI (even because if you try to use the same very good type of AA you will end in poor FPS or little bugs).

Actually it was a 9800Pro that I had...and Still have in an old system. Just for grins I loaded SH3 on it and even though that card is 3 yrs old, it STILL makes SH3 look 1,000% better that my 2 8800GTS'es in SLI....

Wish I would have thought of that before I built this system...but at the time I wasnt playing SH3 anymore

Needless to say my next PC will have ATI card(s).

So basically there is no cure for the distant "shimmering/jaggy water"? I tried the recommended optimizations here and it still looked poor. I even tried Supersampling (and did not notice a huge fps hit).... looked the same to me. Or is SSAA 4X4 and Supersampling with 4XAA different? EDIT: Ooops...reread your post rubini and forgot to set the EA strategy game mode ....need to try that next.

[col_Kurtz]

-If you have any comment or any other tip to enhance the SH3/4 experience when using nVidia hardware please share it with us!

Good Hunting!

Rubini.[/quote]

So... A few words, just a few
My graphic card is: ATI Radeon X1300 - 1550 Pro, 256MB, I heard, that is really bad card, but... I change nVidia (7300 LE - that`s really sh..e card!) and... what a surprise! SH 4... settings highest and patch 1.3, them 1.4 - great, lovely. I`m not sure FPS, but it looks really good, amazing and I really love taht game, for sunshine, sunrise, ocean... and, what more? Well, for ships and battle - of course, magnat for me and I can`t wait for U-boat Expansion pack - it will be great adventure.
So, I don`t know better nVidia, but, I heard about problems with that card, shaders and I think... ATI is bit better for that
I found this link after installation GWX2... Hum. SH4 is fantastic, SH3...:hmm: No comments. Good game, but...

Thanks

[bratwurstdimsum]

Originally Posted by Rubini

(I also posted the same on SH3 general forum because i guess that this is really usefull)

Hi folks,

After some days in tests and with the help of our mates Periscope and mikaelanderlund, I finally finish my concise guide to enhance the image quality in SH3/4 using nHancer and Nvidia cards.
To finish - nHancer best settings for good image quality without any noticeable problem in SH3/4:[/B]
-in the main page at your right check Global, then in

- Enhancements page:
check MultiSampling 4x
check Super- Transparency AA
check AF 16x or 8x
check Vertical Sync Applicaion,

- Optimizations page:
check Texture filtering High Quality
check Tril. opt. Off
check Aniso sample opt. Off
check Neg LOd Bias Clamp
leave all the others settings unchanged

Good Hunting!

Rubini.

THANK YOU THANK YOU

You turned a slightly laggy game into a smooth simulated fighting machine!

Not sure what everyone else is grumbling about, but at least my game is a game again not just a beautiful postcard.

[Doolittle81]

Originally Posted by Rubini

(I also posted the same on SH3 general forum because i guess that this is really usefull)

Hi folks,

After some days in tests and with the help of our mates Periscope and mikaelanderlund, I finally finish my concise guide to enhance the image quality in SH3/4 using nHancer and Nvidia cards.
To finish - nHancer best settings for good image quality without any noticeable problem in SH3/4:[/b]
-in the main page at your right check Global, then in

- Enhancements page:
check MultiSampling 4x
check Super- Transparency AA
check AF 16x or 8x
check Vertical Sync Applicaion,

- Optimizations page:
check Texture filtering High Quality
check Tril. opt. Off
check Aniso sample opt. Off
check Neg LOd Bias Clamp
leave all the others settings unchanged

Good Hunting!

Rubini.

What about your previously recommended selection of "20000000:EA Strategy Games" on the compatibility page?

[1480]

DL8, I've been running what he suggested since the 1st post, including the EA2000000000000 setting and looks great, 8600gt.

[Rockin Robbins]

Only exception being the 7900 GS or any card that gives you the zebra effect in my previous post. Even there do not turn off the "20000000:EA Strategy Games" compatibility setting, just check the "enhance in-game AA setting" box like I did and all Rubini's improvements will work for you too.

You can ignore all the stuff about not exceeding 2x AA and all. Trust Rubini and you'll love the results.

[ATR-42]

Originally Posted by Toastman

Hi fellow NV users , I run a 8800GTX and finally managed to get sun flare back while running FSAA x4 ....... DISABLE GAMMA CORRECTION under FSAA and ALSO
ENABLE MULTISAMPLE TRANSPERANCY ANTIALIASING in NV control panel settings .

good luck , and happy hunting

Toastman out .....

Ref post here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=3407

Are there any advantages to Multisampling over Supersampling?

[jahlmeen]

Tja bracer, SH4 kan bara använda 2 kärnor (tror jag), kanske därför du inte märket någon skillnad

[lancerr]

Was running my old stock dell drivers for my 7900 GS and was getting lots of lag with the Rubini settings.

Finally upgraded to the latest Forceware drivers and with the recommended settings and it looks absolutely gorgeous.

Take a look. (still not sure why the water appears as bands but the sub is what I was concerned about)

I kept it at the 1680 res because resizing the pictures was introducing artifacts