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Old 11-10-07, 01:46 PM   #16
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I wouldn't mind a trip to the Atlantic for a shot or two at a good German capital boat ... er ... ship.
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Old 11-10-07, 01:53 PM   #17
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I wouldn't mind a trip to the Atlantic for a shot or two at a good German capital boat ... er ... ship.

One more reason why im waiting for this add on / expansion.
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Half of my work will be done for me :p
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Old 11-10-07, 02:02 PM   #18
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Old 11-10-07, 02:05 PM   #19
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Assigned to SubRon 50 in a gato that is!
Thanks! I'm looking forward to this.

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Old 11-10-07, 03:57 PM   #20
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Old 11-10-07, 05:11 PM   #21
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Just FYI, the main reason i created this thread, was to plant the seed of thought in other SH4 modders. If you think its a cool idea and want to create this for your mod, GO FOR IT! It doesnt have to be me that does it.

That said, i am going to work on this.. probably after the add on is released, but ill be doing it in my own way.
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Old 11-10-07, 05:37 PM   #22
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Nice idea Ducimus


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Old 11-10-07, 06:24 PM   #23
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Heres some information ive been able to find:
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SubRon 50

- Participant in Operation Torch

-Between December 1942 and March 1943, the submarines searched for blockade runners out of neutral Spanish ports

-In April 43 , they patrolled off Norway, Iceland, and then the mid-Atlantic, searching for enemy U-boats and waiting in case the German surface fleet broke out from its Scandinavian bases.

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USS Beaver (AS-5),

- On 3 September 1942, Beaver and six submarines formed SubRon 50 at New London,

- sometime on or after 1 Nov 42, arrived at the naval operating base at Rosneath, Scotland, near Glasgow, where she established a temporary submarine base for SubRon 50.
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Six boats were assigned to SubRon 50. The following are the patrols done in the atlantic.

USS Barb (SS-220) - com. 8 July 1942
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No: 	Captain: 	         From: 	Date: Duration: 	Score (WT): 	JANAC 	Return:
1 	John R. Waterman 	Roseneath 	10/42 	36 	0/0 	0/0 	Roseneath
2 	John R. Waterman 	Roseneath 	12/42 	31 	0/0 	0/0 	Roseneath
3 	John R. Waterman 	Roseneath 	2/43 	37 	0/0 	0/0 	Roseneath
4 	Nicholas Lucker, Jr. 	Roseneath 	4/43 	44 	0/0 	0/0 	Roseneath
5 	John R. Waterman 	Roseneath 	6/43 	41 	0/0 	0/0 	Roseneath

USS Blackfish (SS-221) - Comm. 22 July 1942
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No: 	Captain: 	         From: 	Date: Duration: 	Score (WT): 	JANAC 	Return:
1 	John F. Davidson 	Britain 	10/42 	37 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
2 	John F. Davidson 	Britain 	12/42 	29 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
3 	John F. Davidson 	Britain 	2/43 	22 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
4 	John F. Davidson 	Britain 	4/43 	39 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
5 	Eliot Olsen 		Britain 	6/43 	48 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
USS Herring (SS-233) - Comm. 4 May 1942
Code:
No: 	Captain: 	         From: 	Date: Duration: 	Score (WT): 	JANAC 	Return:
1 	Raymond W. Johnson 	Britain 	10/42 	35 	1/7,000 	0/0 	Britain
2 	Raymond W. Johnson 	Britain 	12/42 	58 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
3 	John Corbus 		Britain 	3/43 	37 	1/500 	0/0 	Britain
4 	Raymond W. Johnson 	Britain 	5/43 	35 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
5 	Raymond W. Johnson 	Britain 	7/43 	19 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
USS Shad (SS-235) - Comm. 12 June 1942
Code:
No: 	Captain: 	         From: 	Date: Duration: 	Score (WT): 	JANAC 	Return:
1 	Edgar J. MacGregor III 	Britain 	10/42 	35 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
2 	Edgar J. MacGregor III 	Britain 	12/42 	44 	2/600 	0/0 	Britain
3 	Edgar J. MacGregor III 	Britain 	3/43 	37 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
4 	Roland F. Pryce 	Britain 	5/43 	43 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
5 	Edgar J. MacGregor III 	Britain 	7/43 	19 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
USS Gunnel (SS-253) - Comm. 20 August 1942
Code:
No: 	Captain: 	         From: 	Date: Duration: 	Score (WT): 	JANAC 	Return:
1 	John S. McCain, Jr. 	Britain 	10/42 	49 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain

USS Gurnard (SS-254) - Comm 18 September 1942
Code:
No: 	Captain: 	         From: 	Date: Duration: 	Score (WT): 	JANAC 	Return:
1 	Charles H. Andrews 	Britain 	11/42 	30 	0/0 	0/0 	Britain
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Old 11-10-07, 06:32 PM   #24
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Yeah...as you can see by the record they didn't find much to sink. Given the success US subs had in the Pacific sinking I-Boats I'm kinda surprised no U-Boats were ever caught by Gatos in the Atlantic. But then this was early on when US torpedoes were at their worst.
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Old 11-10-07, 06:55 PM   #25
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Right back at 'em...
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Old 11-10-07, 07:43 PM   #26
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Yeah...as you can see by the record they didn't find much to sink. Given the success US subs had in the Pacific sinking I-Boats I'm kinda surprised no U-Boats were ever caught by Gatos in the Atlantic. But then this was early on when US torpedoes were at their worst.

Id hazzard a guess that they were mismanaged from higher up

Heres a quote from one of the links in the orginal post:

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Each night we would receive orders to proceed to a point where German "milch cow" submarines were expected to refuel an attack boat. No visual or radar contacts were made. It also appeared we were going between these points out of sync. If we had been permitted to stay put one night we might have made contact.
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Old 11-11-07, 01:45 AM   #27
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Guess im gonna have to make a WIP thread in the mod forum pretty soon.

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/wip_atl_01.jpg
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http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/wip_atl_03.jpg
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Yes, i know the location isnt 100% correct. I used Firth of Clyde since it was the closest harbor to rosneath that currently exists in the game.
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Old 11-11-07, 04:59 AM   #28
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Here's another idea:
Quite a few S boats were doin patrols on the east coast, carribean and the Panama Canal. Would be cool if that could be implemented although they achieved even less then SUBRON 50.
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Old 11-11-07, 06:45 AM   #29
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Man, talk about something different...definitely got my attention.

A Milch Cow or Type IX in the ol' periscope crosshairs would be very, very sweet...or shooting it out with some E-Boats...
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Old 11-11-07, 05:18 PM   #30
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Would be very interesting to catch a milch cow refitting a u-boat at sea. Fire forward tubes, full spread.:hmm:
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