At Least Seven Dead in School Shooting

[Happy Times]

I just checked his parents websites. Father seems to be a weird part time blues musician but seems harmless. The mother is a crackpot. You can see where he got those ideas from. In America i think she might get sued, or am i wrong? She is a green party fanatic and a follower of Pentti Linkola.

Here is an english wikipedia entry about Linkola, totally insane individual.

"Lately he has provoked controversy by explicitely admiring Nazi-Germany as well as expressing support for the Baader-Meinhof Group. Over the years, he has often been accused of being an "eco-fascist"."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola

Linkolas fansite

http://www.penttilinkola.com/pentti_linkola/ecofascism/

[kranz]

cool idea :rotfl:
but the guy isn't cool

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by kranz

cool idea :rotfl:
but the guy isn't cool

What is?

[TteFAboB]

Very nice info Happy Times, please keep us informed in case anything else comes up.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Very nice info Happy Times, please keep us informed in case anything else comes up.

Thanks, will do

I allready sent the info on his crazy mother to Finnish media. I dont trust them to do their job. They have allready started marching in psychologists that say that we have too many guns and blame computer games.

[kranz]

there is a politician in Poland who says sth like this:the more guns people have the better, which is to be meant as safer.His attitude to this case is similar to that in USA.I don't agree with him but this is off-topic.BUT-some games may have influence on your behaviour-believe me-I'm also a battle.net warcraft 3 player and being pwned isn't nice.Maybe he was pwned too many times....

[CptSimFreak]

If only he had a GF...

[XabbaRus]

Sad individual. I don't think girl rejection would be it. Hell I got rejected loads of times.

From reading the wiki link to that eco fascist guy who his mother likes no wonder.

[Skybird]

Just guessing of mine.

What he wrote sounds very much like an unsure juvenile whose mind struggles with puberty and thus is picking up more ideas from most different directions than he currently can digest, lacking life experience to sort them. So far, so usual - all of us went through that phase. Enthusiasm and idealism meets confusion and and lacking understanding. And this wild mixture of unripe ideas and terms is put into a pressure kettle and put onto a fire: the context of his family, especially his mother, heating it all up - until the kettle blew up.

Could have been like this, but must not have been like this. Life stinks if your parents do not support you and help you to find out yourself which is the better path to choose for at that crossroad, or mess up their parental responsibilities altogether.

Tragic event. Hate-filled calls for revenge, wishing most brutal doom and penalty upon him, are not needed, and must not be wanted. Justice, reason, caring for the survivors and those who lost loved ones, and protecting the community, is good enough.

Reading this brought to mind;

What do I hate / What I don’t like?
Equality, tolerance, human rights, political correctness, hypocrisy, ignorance, enslaving religions and ideologies, antidepressants, TV soap operas & drama shows, rap -music, mass media, censorship, political populists, religious fanatics, moral majority, totalitarianism, consumerism, democracy, pacifism, state mafia, alcholohics, TV commercials, human race.

What do I love / what do I like?
Existentialism, self-awareness, freedom, justice, truth, moral & political philosophy, personal & social psychology, evolution science, political incorrectness, guns, shooting, BDSM, computers, internet, aggressive electronic and industrial rock & metal music, violent movies, , FPS –computer games, sarcasm, irony, black humour, macabre artm mass & serial killer cases, natural disasters, eugenics

the contradictions I often hear from some on this board. I'm not saying we have any potential murders here. But we do have too much permissiveness which will now try to either attempt to understand it or justify it.

Take the opportunity away by allowing schools to be as secure as government institutions. It is no less important, is it?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by waste gate

the contradictions I often hear from some on this board. I'm not saying we have any potential murders here. But we do have too much permissiveness which will now try to either attempt to understand it or justify it.

What's wrong with understanding why someone would do something like this?

Originally Posted by Tchocky

What's wrong with understanding why someone would do something like this?

Because I don't think it serves any purpose. It doesn't stop the next crazy from doing it. More resources should be placed on preventing future episodes. By that I mean letting it be known that the easy opportunity of shooting up a school full of easy victims doesn't exist.

[Biggles]

This bastard doesn't have any excuses if you ask me. I'm sad that he's dead, 'cause he deserves a life in a cold cell before going six feet under. I'm truly sorry over this event, and my thoughts with the families of the dead, and, indeed, the finnish people as whole.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Just guessing of mine.

What he wrote sounds very much like an unsure juvenile whose mind struggles with puberty and thus is picking up more ideas from most different directions than he currently can digest, lacking life experience to sort them. So far, so usual - all of us went through that phase. Enthusiasm and idealism meets confusion and and lacking understanding. And this wild mixture of unripe ideas and terms is put into a pressure kettle and put onto a fire: the context of his family, especially his mother, heating it all up - until the kettle blew up.

Could have been like this, but must not have been like this. Life stinks if your parents do not support you and help you to find out yourself which is the better path to choose for at that crossroad, or mess up their parental responsibilities altogether.

Tragic event. Hate-filled calls for revenge, wishing most brutal doom and penalty upon him, are not needed, and must not be wanted. Justice, reason, caring for the survivors and those who lost loved ones, and protecting the community, is good enough.

I agree here Skybird...very tragic...very sorry Happy Times for this happening in your country.

[Skybird]

Justice is one thing. Revenge is another. And many tough speaking law-and-order-guys seek revenge - for their own satisfaction only, not because of any conception of "justice"

I said:

- Justice,
- reason,
- caring for the survivors and those who lost loved ones,
- and protecting the community

Has anyone any problems with these four points? :hmm: