The Kilo Doctrine: A guide to kilo tactics - Page 2

OneShot · 10-18-07, 02:21 PM

The manual is linked at the CADC in the release thread. Just try this link and scroll down to my first post : http://www.commanders-academy.com/fo...ad.php?t=15881

Cyklop · 10-18-07, 02:31 PM

Excellent!
Thank you, TLAM Strike.

TLAM Strike · 10-18-07, 04:10 PM

Glad everyone likes it!

I hope to release an updated verson with some corrections and additional data and hints in a month or two as I find time.

Now on to some of those questons

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Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

Uh .. great indeed !

Where did you take all those lovely pictures ?

I got most of them from some photo collections posted by Bill Nichols I think they are still hosted at Subguru. Others I snagged from the web over the years and don't remember, probaly from a google search for "Russian Submarine Interiors" or whatnot.

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

Are the pictures of the control room and sonar from the Kilo or some other boat? It looks like the Kilo, but let's check. That must be the most beautiful MGK-400 sonar screen (P.12) I've ever seen

I have a confesson, the equipment posted on P.12 was really a radar scope from a Juillett SSG I think.

It just looked so much like the MGK-400 set in DW that I used it. The control room shown on P.12 I think is from the kilo or another boat of the same era. Not totaly sure about the others.

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

V1.0 of my kilo guide. Its a .pdf file.

The Kilo Doctrine V1.0.zip

Are the pictures of the control room and sonar from the Kilo or some other boat? It looks like the Kilo, but let's check. That must be the most beautiful MGK-400 sonar screen (P.12) I've ever seen

Yes ! I like that picture too .. is there a hires version of it somewhere ?

The control room or the radar/sonar scope? TimmyG00 was the source for the scope image. I'll post the origional image of the control room soom but its not really that big IIRC.

Dr.Sid · 10-19-07, 03:24 AM

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The control room or the radar/sonar scope? TimmyG00 was the source for the scope image. I'll post the origional image of the control room soom but its not really that big IIRC.

The scope. Btw what about such devices turned on ? Are such pictures available ? I'd made them classified as hell, but are they ?

Kpt Lothar · 10-19-07, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by robdw

Very nice!! My binder of all things DW has just grown.

what else have you got in there? maybe i'll make mine.

goldorak · 10-19-07, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt Lothar

what else have you got in there? maybe i'll make mine.

This is mine :

Timmy G00 Tactical Multiplayer Manual
Oneshot P-3 Manual
Seawolve Blue Book
TLAM Strike Kilo Manual

TLAM Strike · 10-19-07, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

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The control room or the radar/sonar scope? TimmyG00 was the source for the scope image. I'll post the origional image of the control room soom but its not really that big IIRC.

The scope. Btw what about such devices turned on ? Are such pictures available ? I'd made them classified as hell, but are they ?

You can find pics of that scope and other gear on this site: http://www.pbase.com/timmyg_00

Just look under the K-77 section>Interior

Dr.Sid · 10-19-07, 02:39 PM

Lovely .. thanks !

OneShot · 10-19-07, 03:23 PM

I've worked a bit on your layout and along the way started a thread which links to the Wiki for discussion of the Wiki and through it your Guide at the CADC.

Link to the Wiki Version : http://www.commanders-academy.com/wi...o_Kilo_tactics
Link to the Discussion Thread : http://www.commanders-academy.com/fo...ad.php?t=15968

P.S. : Check your PMs at the CADC

Hitman · 10-19-07, 03:23 PM

Well finally got it thanks to the link posted by Oneshot

Very informative TLAM, I like it much

made me want to reinstall DW and give the Kilo a spin

robdw · 10-19-07, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kpt Lothar

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Originally Posted by robdw

Very nice!! My binder of all things DW has just grown.

what else have you got in there? maybe i'll make mine.

1 - assorted ship quick reference sheets (I don't play enough, so I need reminders of what does what

), sound propagation diagrams and stuff from articles various posters have linked to on this forum, FFG towed array depth vs speed, cavitation charts, NM to yds conversion, time vs distance travelled chart etc.
2 - P-3C Orion OWTOP guide by Orion Warrior
3 - FFG guide by MaHuJa
4 - TMA tutorial by Top Torp
5 - Sub Basic Ops Manual by OneShot and SubSailor
6 - The Bluebook of Sub ops
7 - Sub Command HQ Ops manual
8 - Kaptains Russian sub guide
9 - Notfallmappe guide by Micheal Wolff (A.K.A. Landlubbers survival guide for DW)
10- Kilo Doctorine by TLAM strike
11 - the DW game manual (least used and likely most useless part of the binder -- this game would be near unplayable for newbies without the amazing efforts of the authors information like above and people like Bill Nichols hosting the SubGuru site -- my apologies to those I've missed crediting).

I have a separate small binder that I keep my ship/aircraft/weapon reference charts in.

I know, I have a problem. My name is Robert and I'm an organization freak

!!

Most of what's in my binders can be found at Subguru's site and/or the Commanders Academy and Dive Centre although you may have to go back thru some of the posts here to find links to some great "background" type info (i.e. detailed articles on sound travel).

Robert

MarkShot · 10-19-07, 06:53 PM

I think I have everything on the list but for the P-3C and FFG guides. Where can I find them in a PDF printable form?

Thanks.

---

Disregard - I found them.

Hitman · 10-20-07, 08:00 AM

Mark

I believe they are at Bill Nichol's site http://www.subguru.com/downloads.html

Linton · 10-20-07, 01:20 PM

"I have a separate small binder that I keep my ship/aircraft/weapon reference charts in."
What source do you use for these and what is the Notfallmappe?

GrayOwl · 10-20-07, 04:14 PM

Most useful - Guide From TimmyG00.

If want to have an entertainment - read Notfallmappe...

10-18-07, 02:21 PM	#16
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The manual is linked at the CADC in the release thread. Just try this link and scroll down to my first post : http://www.commanders-academy.com/fo...ad.php?t=15881 __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

10-19-07, 03:23 PM	#24
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I've worked a bit on your layout and along the way started a thread which links to the Wiki for discussion of the Wiki and through it your Guide at the CADC. Link to the Wiki Version : http://www.commanders-academy.com/wi...o_Kilo_tactics Link to the Discussion Thread : http://www.commanders-academy.com/fo...ad.php?t=15968 P.S. : Check your PMs at the CADC __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

10-19-07, 03:23 PM	#25
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Well finally got it thanks to the link posted by Oneshot Very informative TLAM, I like it much made me want to reinstall DW and give the Kilo a spin __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

10-19-07, 06:53 PM	#27
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	I think I have everything on the list but for the P-3C and FFG guides. Where can I find them in a PDF printable form? Thanks. --- Disregard - I found them. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)! Last edited by MarkShot; 10-19-07 at 09:08 PM.

10-20-07, 08:00 AM	#28
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Mark I believe they are at Bill Nichol's site http://www.subguru.com/downloads.html __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

10-18-07, 02:31 PM	#17
Cyklop Seaman Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: visual, aural and nasal Posts: 37 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Excellent! Thank you, TLAM Strike.

10-19-07, 02:39 PM	#23
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Lovely .. thanks !

10-20-07, 01:20 PM	#29
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"I have a separate small binder that I keep my ship/aircraft/weapon reference charts in." What source do you use for these and what is the Notfallmappe? __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

10-20-07, 04:14 PM	#30
GrayOwl Soundman Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Compartment № 5 /Silos/ Posts: 149 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Most useful - Guide From TimmyG00. If want to have an entertainment - read Notfallmappe... __________________ -+= I the ocean hunter, and I am dangerous =+- * Kalashnikov - the best *