Take note of the tilt

Venatore · 09-22-07, 11:04 PM

ok have a laugh, but................................

Take note when the torpedo hits the boat, I like the tilting motion. You would have to tone it down quiet a bit if you where going to introduce it into the game. The way it tilted in this clip was way to much, but I like the idea of a little tilting on torpedo impact.

As for the U-boat tab data and engine power............I think we should leave that on the shelf for other kiddy games.

I just wanted to you note the tilt of the impact.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=WWFJUL9L

AtlantikEel · 09-22-07, 11:28 PM

Agreed. Too much tilting here, but there should be some in game.

That was a good laugh though!

Frostyvegi · 09-23-07, 12:01 AM

I hope I'm not the only one who thought of 'Free Willy' when it launched over the DD..

Spruence M · 09-23-07, 12:17 AM

@ship tilt

Very interesting. Would be like shooting ships and not brick walls.

papa_smurf · 09-23-07, 08:19 AM

Looks to me like the secret Kreigesmarine project "U-Dolphin" we were not told about.....

andylegate · 09-23-07, 08:26 AM

Was Bernard at the con?????

panzer 49th · 09-23-07, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by andylegate

Was Bernard at the con?????

Probably.

NiclDoe · 09-23-07, 10:20 AM

Yes he was becuase no u-boat can do that stuff without him on board.

Kodaita · 09-23-07, 12:36 PM

Actually, I am pretty sure Bernard was not on board. I know that Reichsmarschall Göring likes to command ground troops as well as the Luftwaffe. I bet he's trying to stick his nose in the Kriegsmarine as well. Which would mean that Bernard's Luftwaffe brother, Ludwig, was playing around with the dive planes .

onelifecrisis · 09-26-07, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Venatore

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=WWFJUL9L

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

That was friggin brilliant.

andylegate · 09-26-07, 05:42 AM

Okay,

I was a Tin Can sailor while in the Navy (1984 - 1994). I served on board the USS Preble (DDG-46), USS Coontz (DDG-40), and the USS MacDonough (DDG-39).
These class destroyers were 513 feet long and 53 feet wide at the widest beam, draft of almost 18 feet (5.4 meters) and they displaced about 5,600 tons.

These ships were not designed to roll past 52 degrees. As a matter of fact, my radar antenna (AN/SPS-48C), was the 2nd highest object on the masts. It weighed about 2 1/2 tons (it was a phased array attenna, quite large made out of wave guide stacked up, looks like a large rectangle) and was designed to shear off if the ship ever rolled passed that 52 point, so that the center of gravity would shift and allow the ship to go up right again.
If my ships had rolled over as far as the one in the video, that would have been all she wrote! My ships would have continued to roll until captsised at that point.

I don't know how far she would have heaved over from a torp hit (thank god I never had to find that out!), but I'm sure that it can be figured out.
One would need to know the amount of energy release from the torp, angle of impact, depth of impact from the water line, and where along the length of the hull the torp hit (if it was in the stern or bow, the ship would be shoved over and wouldn't roll).
I can tell you right now that a torp hit on my class of destroyer in the same area as the movie, would not cause the ship to go up in a fire ball, but would have opened up the #2 boiler room to the sea.

Most modern day weapons are designed to penatrate, then detonate. I used to teach the Harpoon Cruise missle (RGM-84D) and that is how they work. Many of today's modern torpedos don't actually impact with the hull, but instead dip below the keel and then detonate.........with enough energy to lift the middle of the ship out of the water, breaking her back.
If our modern ones can do that (with over 5,600 tons) I imagine that an actual side impact that's shallow would damn near push the ship over!

09-22-07, 11:04 PM	#1
Venatore Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia:- Sydney Posts: 2,049 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Take note of the tilt ok have a laugh, but................................ Take note when the torpedo hits the boat, I like the tilting motion. You would have to tone it down quiet a bit if you where going to introduce it into the game. The way it tilted in this clip was way to much, but I like the idea of a little tilting on torpedo impact. As for the U-boat tab data and engine power............I think we should leave that on the shelf for other kiddy games. I just wanted to you note the tilt of the impact. http://www.megavideo.com/?v=WWFJUL9L

09-23-07, 08:26 AM	#6
andylegate Medic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SC, USA Posts: 168 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Was Bernard at the con????? __________________ My Real Life Navy Brag Page Below http://www1.freewebs.com/andylegate/

09-23-07, 10:20 AM	#8
NiclDoe Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the Air or hiding from Black Swans Posts: 760 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Yes he was becuase no u-boat can do that stuff without him on board. __________________ The Crazy Wolf

09-23-07, 12:36 PM	#9
Kodaita A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Actually, I am pretty sure Bernard was not on board. I know that Reichsmarschall Göring likes to command ground troops as well as the Luftwaffe. I bet he's trying to stick his nose in the Kriegsmarine as well. Which would mean that Bernard's Luftwaffe brother, Ludwig, was playing around with the dive planes . __________________ "Helm, bridge...what are you doing 60 degrees off course?" "Bridge, helm...coming back from 90 degrees, sir."

09-26-07, 05:42 AM	#11
andylegate Medic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SC, USA Posts: 168 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Okay, I was a Tin Can sailor while in the Navy (1984 - 1994). I served on board the USS Preble (DDG-46), USS Coontz (DDG-40), and the USS MacDonough (DDG-39). These class destroyers were 513 feet long and 53 feet wide at the widest beam, draft of almost 18 feet (5.4 meters) and they displaced about 5,600 tons. These ships were not designed to roll past 52 degrees. As a matter of fact, my radar antenna (AN/SPS-48C), was the 2nd highest object on the masts. It weighed about 2 1/2 tons (it was a phased array attenna, quite large made out of wave guide stacked up, looks like a large rectangle) and was designed to shear off if the ship ever rolled passed that 52 point, so that the center of gravity would shift and allow the ship to go up right again. If my ships had rolled over as far as the one in the video, that would have been all she wrote! My ships would have continued to roll until captsised at that point. I don't know how far she would have heaved over from a torp hit (thank god I never had to find that out!), but I'm sure that it can be figured out. One would need to know the amount of energy release from the torp, angle of impact, depth of impact from the water line, and where along the length of the hull the torp hit (if it was in the stern or bow, the ship would be shoved over and wouldn't roll). I can tell you right now that a torp hit on my class of destroyer in the same area as the movie, would not cause the ship to go up in a fire ball, but would have opened up the #2 boiler room to the sea. Most modern day weapons are designed to penatrate, then detonate. I used to teach the Harpoon Cruise missle (RGM-84D) and that is how they work. Many of today's modern torpedos don't actually impact with the hull, but instead dip below the keel and then detonate.........with enough energy to lift the middle of the ship out of the water, breaking her back. If our modern ones can do that (with over 5,600 tons) I imagine that an actual side impact that's shallow would damn near push the ship over! __________________ My Real Life Navy Brag Page Below http://www1.freewebs.com/andylegate/

09-22-07, 11:28 PM	#2
AtlantikEel A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 74 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Agreed. Too much tilting here, but there should be some in game. That was a good laugh though!

09-23-07, 12:01 AM	#3
Frostyvegi A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 78 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I hope I'm not the only one who thought of 'Free Willy' when it launched over the DD..

09-23-07, 12:17 AM	#4
Spruence M Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 14 Meters Posts: 394 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	@ship tilt Very interesting. Would be like shooting ships and not brick walls.

09-23-07, 08:19 AM	#5
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Looks to me like the secret Kreigesmarine project "U-Dolphin" we were not told about.....