Operation Berlin in GWX - Page 2

KPII · 09-09-07, 05:24 AM

Ohoy,

A couple of questions on the "Operation Berlin" scenario in GWX if you don't mind. The situation is as follows:

1. I started a new career with 2nd Flotille in FEB 1941, with the purpose of doing a few sea trials before heading south to the Cap Verde Islands. My plan was to try and intercept Scarnhorst/Gneisenau, U-105/U-106/U-124 and/or BB Malaya and convoy SL-67 on the 7th March 1941.

2. Since there are no LAT/LONG coordinates on the map in SHIII and the map in the GWX manual is very large scale it would probably be a bit difficult to do the intercept, but I was hoping for some good intel out of SH Gen or Radio Reports from BdU. The only info I had was Scarnhorst LAT/LONG and steering course 140 degrees when intercepting SL-67, so I assumed it would be a few hundred NM SE of the Cap Verde islands on the main convoy route from Freetown to GB.
(on the map in the GWX manual it looks like the location is SW of Cap Verde, but this didn't really fit with the fact, that it's off the main convoy route, and Scarnhorst was steering 140 degrees en route from the Canaries).

My back-up plan was to intercept BB Malaya and SL-68 together with the other U-Boats on March 20, since I knew this would be 250 NM NNW of Cap Verde.

3. After 3 weeks of tidious cruising - ignoring a bunch of juicy tagets to conserve fuel - I arrived on station at the Cap Verde islands H-2 days and started a monster search pattern. En route south I had received a huge number of Radio Messages about a couple of Wolf-Pack attacks near the British Isles, so I had high hopes for some udates on "Operation Berlin", since I had received the Radio Message on the kick-off of the operation in an earlier career.

4. An updated Intel Report (100% Intel/100% reliability settings) via SH Gen didn't give me any hint as to where where to start looking and the radio spam about the operation to the north continued without any info on Berlin nor ship/convoy observations in the South Atlantic.
However, since arriving in the area I have received maybe 50 reports on Warships spawning about 500 NM north of Freetown on course south, where they gathered outside Freetown. I was hoping that they were forming the escort for SL-67, but when the 6 March passed and they were still mingling about this was unlikely to happen. I hanged around between Freetown and Cap Verde for another week without a single sighting. I'm now making my way NW at a crusing speed of 8 knts while I write this, in the hope that I'll intercept the Malaya on or around March 20.

Questions:
1. Are the Campaigns/scenarios scripted so that the units are spawned directly at location or are they arriving from the historic starting point i.e. will the BB Malaya be escorting the convoy from Freetown or spawn at the correct location?
2. What's the exact location for the rendez-vous between the subs and the BB's on March 6? and/or the exact location of the intercept of BB Malaya and SL-67?
3. What's the exact location of the intercept of SL-68 and Malaya on March 20 (I might be able to confirm if 250 NM NNW is correct when I arrive in a few hours RL time

).
4. What's the exact location of the intercept of HMS Rodney and Convoy HX-114 in the North-Atlantic on March 16?

Many thanks - I know that I could just follow the task-force from Kiel in January, but without any Milk Cows around I'm unlikely to last for the two months duration of the operation or aquire contact again after a refuelling run to the Canaries.

regards,
KPII

Edit: just a few more questions on second thought - if you read this far you probably won't mind:
5. Will it be possible to re-fuel from the tankers where Scarnhorst/Gneisenau refuelled as indicated on the map?
6. Does SHIII/GWX spawn all new convoys/ships in habours or in mid-ocean?
7. Running SH Gen on max settings I was surprised to see that A. there are very few single merchants in general and B. Convoys and single merchants does not spawn on or near the routes indicated on the SHIII map. Can anyone confirm that this is correct or is the Intel from SH3 Gen incomplete/incorrect?

Thanks a bunch and thanks also for the most amazing Mod I have ever seen!

09-09-07, 05:24 AM	#1
KPII Seaman Join Date: May 2007 Location: 45 degrees abeam with flooded tubes Posts: 35 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Operation Berlin in GWX Ohoy, A couple of questions on the "Operation Berlin" scenario in GWX if you don't mind. The situation is as follows: 1. I started a new career with 2nd Flotille in FEB 1941, with the purpose of doing a few sea trials before heading south to the Cap Verde Islands. My plan was to try and intercept Scarnhorst/Gneisenau, U-105/U-106/U-124 and/or BB Malaya and convoy SL-67 on the 7th March 1941. 2. Since there are no LAT/LONG coordinates on the map in SHIII and the map in the GWX manual is very large scale it would probably be a bit difficult to do the intercept, but I was hoping for some good intel out of SH Gen or Radio Reports from BdU. The only info I had was Scarnhorst LAT/LONG and steering course 140 degrees when intercepting SL-67, so I assumed it would be a few hundred NM SE of the Cap Verde islands on the main convoy route from Freetown to GB. (on the map in the GWX manual it looks like the location is SW of Cap Verde, but this didn't really fit with the fact, that it's off the main convoy route, and Scarnhorst was steering 140 degrees en route from the Canaries). My back-up plan was to intercept BB Malaya and SL-68 together with the other U-Boats on March 20, since I knew this would be 250 NM NNW of Cap Verde. 3. After 3 weeks of tidious cruising - ignoring a bunch of juicy tagets to conserve fuel - I arrived on station at the Cap Verde islands H-2 days and started a monster search pattern. En route south I had received a huge number of Radio Messages about a couple of Wolf-Pack attacks near the British Isles, so I had high hopes for some udates on "Operation Berlin", since I had received the Radio Message on the kick-off of the operation in an earlier career. 4. An updated Intel Report (100% Intel/100% reliability settings) via SH Gen didn't give me any hint as to where where to start looking and the radio spam about the operation to the north continued without any info on Berlin nor ship/convoy observations in the South Atlantic. However, since arriving in the area I have received maybe 50 reports on Warships spawning about 500 NM north of Freetown on course south, where they gathered outside Freetown. I was hoping that they were forming the escort for SL-67, but when the 6 March passed and they were still mingling about this was unlikely to happen. I hanged around between Freetown and Cap Verde for another week without a single sighting. I'm now making my way NW at a crusing speed of 8 knts while I write this, in the hope that I'll intercept the Malaya on or around March 20. Questions: 1. Are the Campaigns/scenarios scripted so that the units are spawned directly at location or are they arriving from the historic starting point i.e. will the BB Malaya be escorting the convoy from Freetown or spawn at the correct location? 2. What's the exact location for the rendez-vous between the subs and the BB's on March 6? and/or the exact location of the intercept of BB Malaya and SL-67? 3. What's the exact location of the intercept of SL-68 and Malaya on March 20 (I might be able to confirm if 250 NM NNW is correct when I arrive in a few hours RL time ). 4. What's the exact location of the intercept of HMS Rodney and Convoy HX-114 in the North-Atlantic on March 16? Many thanks - I know that I could just follow the task-force from Kiel in January, but without any Milk Cows around I'm unlikely to last for the two months duration of the operation or aquire contact again after a refuelling run to the Canaries. regards, KPII Edit: just a few more questions on second thought - if you read this far you probably won't mind: 5. Will it be possible to re-fuel from the tankers where Scarnhorst/Gneisenau refuelled as indicated on the map? 6. Does SHIII/GWX spawn all new convoys/ships in habours or in mid-ocean? 7. Running SH Gen on max settings I was surprised to see that A. there are very few single merchants in general and B. Convoys and single merchants does not spawn on or near the routes indicated on the SHIII map. Can anyone confirm that this is correct or is the Intel from SH3 Gen incomplete/incorrect? Thanks a bunch and thanks also for the most amazing Mod I have ever seen! __________________ ObLt. z. S. Edmund Hegner U-850 (Type IXD2) 12. U-Flotille, Bordeaux Last edited by KPII; 09-09-07 at 05:46 AM.