How to get out of a DUI

[Tchocky]

Seems to be at the upper end of global standards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_a...hol_Content.29

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Seems to be at the upper end of global standards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_a...hol_Content.29

Maybe, but little in America resembles the PC Europe these days, so this doesn't surprise me.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Anyway, what irks me more than anything about this is, driving with a cell phone is equivalent to blowing a .15 or .2, and yet we tolerate that??!!!

Telephoning while driving is prohibited in Germany , as long as you do not use a room microphone and loudspeakers and have both hands free.
Psychologically it still is too distracting and should be forbidden completely, i think.

We lived without that until just some years ago, and nobody was missing it. But today some wannabe-VIPs claim they can't live without it? Ridiculous.

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Actually, in my opinion, .08 level is a little pathetic to use as the defining mark. .1 is probably a better benchmark to use and they used to use it around here. .08 is less than a single beer for some people, and I have yet to see someone drunk off 1 beer or have anything impaired driving wise. Tomorrow, it will be .06.

0.08 % Less than a single beer? How strong has that got to be? I've yet to meet a person who get's 0.08 % after a single beer.
0.1% that would be double than what we have in austria, and 0.05% is plenty, atleast 0.5 litres of beer.
two beers and you've got about 0.08%, some are drunk or appear to be drunk after one beer, that's right, and they might even not get in the car after said one beer, but would be allowed to drive.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

0.08 % Less than a single beer? How strong has that got to be? I've yet to meet a person who get's 0.08 % after a single beer.
0.1% that would be double than what we have in austria, and 0.05% is plenty, atleast 0.5 litres of beer.
two beers and you've got about 0.08%, some are drunk or appear to be drunk after one beer, that's right, and they might even not get in the car after said one beer, but would be allowed to drive.

You drink some weak beer out there! I can see Budweiser being 2 beers maybe, but a decent IPA, and its only 1. Budweiser is less than 5% I beleive (3%?), and a decent IPA will be up around 6.5%. Maybe we just have better beer than you guys! Excuse me - I should call it Ale.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Just looked it up - a decent strong Ale like a Stone Double Bastard will make a 180 lbs person blow a .09% after one bottle. This is after 1 hours time.

-S

[Monica Lewinsky]

So many people forget that ANY vehicle is a killing machine. You don't need a few "under the belt" to find how to use the weapon. Too many past stories have proven this.

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You drink some weak beer out there! I can see Budweiser being 2 beers maybe, but a decent IPA, and its only 1. Budweiser is less than 5% I beleive (3%?), and a decent IPA will be up around 6.5%. Maybe we just have better beer than you guys! Excuse me - I should call it Ale.

-S

Well me and my friends drink nothing with less than 5%, but I guess drinking 0.5 litres is a bit less than a pint? Anyway even with 6.5% I think I'd be under 0.05% after an hour, 0.5 litres that is, guess with a pint I'd be slightly above. hmm I really need a good, accurate breathalyzer, because I'd like to put this to test, and not in a police control.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by Skybird

My mom lost her sister (and her complete family: husband, unborn baby) due to a drunken driver. I lost my fiance due to a drunken driver. I reserve the right to beat up every f###ing a$$hole who tries to drive drunk under my eyes. And I will give my best in getting that job done, and then some. A warning penalty of 200 euros and one month without license is just too good and means nothing for such imbiciles.

If loss of license messes up that man's life and job - so be it. Nobody told him to act like a caveman.

Needless that I defend nil-promille rules for drivers. If you are to drive, no alcohol. It's the cleanest solution, invulnerable to physical variables, shape of day, moon phase and weather and season.

I agree with you 100%.

[sunvalleyslim]

[quote=SUBMAN1]Actually, in my opinion, .08 level is a little pathetic to use as the defining mark. .1 is probably a better benchmark to use and they used to use it around here. .08 is less than a single beer for some people, and I have yet to see someone drunk off 1 beer or have anything impaired driving wise. Tomorrow, it will be .06.

Subman,
I have been around long enough to remember when the legal limit in Calif. was .10%. It was nearly impossible to get a conviction below that number. Today it stands here in Calif. at .08%.
In my career I personally arrested over 4,000 people for driving under the influence of alcohol, drugs, stupidity, or a combination of all three. The highest reading was a .42%. By definition that is supposed to be comatose. That person was driving down the road when I stopped him. I have also arrested some one who was an .06%. A young petite woman, non drinker, holiday party, rear ended a car. She was passed out when I got there, passed out in the patrol car, woke up and puked all over the front seat before I got her to the station. Had to help her stand to blow into the GCI. Case never made it to court. City Attorney threw it out because of the number.

Bottom line, I've stopped people that were driving perfectly fine, did the Field Sobriety Test with no problem, but you just had that gut feeling they were impaired. Get them to the station and they blow a .20% Case closed. That guys gonna get convicted no matter what, because of the reading. He's an alcoholic, but has learned to act sober to the rest of the world.
On the other hand the girl walks because her number was low. Who's the bigger menace on the road? She is. Numbers don't really mean a thing out on the street, but they sure do in a court of law. So The Law picks an arbitary number that fits the average Joe. Over it you're a gonner. Under, you might just walk......

KInd of pathetic, when you realize people die a senseless death at the hand of another........and it can come down to a number

[bookworm_020]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Actually, in my opinion, .08 level is a little pathetic to use as the defining mark. .1 is probably a better benchmark to use and they used to use it around here. .08 is less than a single beer for some people, and I have yet to see someone drunk off 1 beer or have anything impaired driving wise. Tomorrow, it will be .06.

Anyway, what irks me more than anything about this is, driving with a cell phone is equivalent to blowing a .15 or .2, and yet we tolerate that??!!!

This is another case of PC gone haywire. Yes - if you blow a .1, then you are starting to become impaired and you should hang out till your alc level comes down a bit, or get a cab.

I don't personally know anyone who has been pulled over for drunk driving, but I've had a close call or two with a drunk driver, but this is nothing because I CAN'T COUNT HOW MANY TIMES I'VE ALMOST BEEN KILLED BY A CELL PHONE USER!!!!

-S

Here in Australia, it's 0.05 for Blood alcohol content for your regular drivers, point 0.02 for P platers and 0.00 for learners! It helped bring down alcohol related acciedents and deaths. Now they are doing test for drugs, so your introuble if your blotto or stoned!

As for rasing the limits, no one would dare. After years of this (it's been in since the early 80's) everone know the limits and many clubs and pubs have been supportive, such as

Designated drivers - some who get free soft drinks by wearing a wrist band showing that their the Des driver for the night, commoon around Christmas.

A free bus to drop them home

Volunteer groups who will drop people home if they have ahd too much to drink and drive home under the law

Pubs installing breath testers, so people can see if there near the limit.

[Camaero]

One day me and a friend were driving home late one night. There was a car in front of us who we were just about to pass when all of a sudden he swerved to the right and then very quickly to the left and smashed into the guard rails almost head on. We stopped and helped the guy. The smell of alcohol was all over his breath. Then a nice looking Camaro cop car picked the guy up and hauled him off. I was amazed that the guy wasn't hurt. I would have liked to kick his ass though...

I don't think the penalty is high enough for drunk drivers. So many innocent lives are lost or damaged because of a few people trying to get themselves a Darwin Award.

[The Avon Lady]

An oldie but a goodie:

[The Avon Lady]

Back to seriousness, a few years ago here they were broadcasting don't drive and drive commercials like .

Why they stopped broadcasting them I'll never understand.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Back to seriousness, a few years ago here they were broadcasting don't drive and drive commercials like .

Why they stopped broadcasting them I'll never understand.

An Irish company produced them, as far as I remember. I don't see why we need to spend thousands on pretty-looking ads that tell people what they already know, and ignore.

Trying to create a better society by implementing fear tactics is almost as bad as trying to educate people by using ignorance.
Shock tactics are just that, a shock without any sort of lesson.