Enemy A/C south of Midway OR tale of 48 single engine planes 2000 miles from a base

scrag · 08-24-07, 04:52 PM

Okay - this is simply stupid - I was jumped by no less than 30 pairs (yes pairs) of Zeros or Vals starting south of Midway (within sight of the island) and continuing to the central pacific. It felt more like frogger as you sit there and get overflown by pairs of fighters and dive bombers ABSOLUTELY STUPID!!!!! Yes there is no carrier as it would have been blown out of the water (within sight of Midway late 1942) .
I am patched to 1.3 and was wondering if this was a bug?

tater · 08-24-07, 04:58 PM

There is no reason at all in game why a CV (or 3, or 4) could not be there.

The fact that you saw vals pretty much proves there was at least one CV nearby.

tater

Ducimus · 08-24-07, 05:01 PM

Ill bet i get exact opposite complaints in TM 1.6

tater · 08-24-07, 05:16 PM

Heheh.

The problem with the planes in stock (from CVs) is that since they have such huge range you see a zillion planes, but you could be many hundreds of miles from the CV.

In RL, unless sending a strike out, you'd be lucky to see ANY aircraft as far as 2-300 miles, and those would be strictly recon planes. Even those would be based on likely action with the enemy, not SOP.

Any sort of constant CAP for CVs would be within visual range of the TF. I have thought about BP-cloning the CV planes, and dropping the range to 50nm or so to be "CAP" planes. Course the CAP would need to be reduced to 1 plane (unless it's squadrons, then they all need to be 0, IMO)

Then at least if you saw them, you'd know you were CLOSE.

tater

Ducimus · 08-24-07, 05:18 PM

I still want to know how many planes are considered a squadron since in stock, airbases have like 9 or 10 squadrons of various planes.

tater · 08-24-07, 05:50 PM

Seems like it must be planes, the numbers used on the CVs are VERY close to the actual plane counts on carriers. If they are squadrons, CVs have about 10X too many planes on them. If they are squadrons, the airgroups need to be 2 of each type of plane.

tater

08-24-07, 04:52 PM	#1
scrag Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Posts: 161 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Enemy A/C south of Midway OR tale of 48 single engine planes 2000 miles from a base Okay - this is simply stupid - I was jumped by no less than 30 pairs (yes pairs) of Zeros or Vals starting south of Midway (within sight of the island) and continuing to the central pacific. It felt more like frogger as you sit there and get overflown by pairs of fighters and dive bombers ABSOLUTELY STUPID!!!!! Yes there is no carrier as it would have been blown out of the water (within sight of Midway late 1942) . I am patched to 1.3 and was wondering if this was a bug? __________________

08-24-07, 04:58 PM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	There is no reason at all in game why a CV (or 3, or 4) could not be there. The fact that you saw vals pretty much proves there was at least one CV nearby. tater

08-24-07, 05:01 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Ill bet i get exact opposite complaints in TM 1.6

08-24-07, 05:16 PM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Heheh. The problem with the planes in stock (from CVs) is that since they have such huge range you see a zillion planes, but you could be many hundreds of miles from the CV. In RL, unless sending a strike out, you'd be lucky to see ANY aircraft as far as 2-300 miles, and those would be strictly recon planes. Even those would be based on likely action with the enemy, not SOP. Any sort of constant CAP for CVs would be within visual range of the TF. I have thought about BP-cloning the CV planes, and dropping the range to 50nm or so to be "CAP" planes. Course the CAP would need to be reduced to 1 plane (unless it's squadrons, then they all need to be 0, IMO) Then at least if you saw them, you'd know you were CLOSE. tater

08-24-07, 05:18 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I still want to know how many planes are considered a squadron since in stock, airbases have like 9 or 10 squadrons of various planes.

08-24-07, 05:50 PM	#6
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Seems like it must be planes, the numbers used on the CVs are VERY close to the actual plane counts on carriers. If they are squadrons, CVs have about 10X too many planes on them. If they are squadrons, the airgroups need to be 2 of each type of plane. tater