New graphic card - Page 2

Gunner · 08-03-07, 12:14 PM

Reason went with 8800 over 7950GT is memory bandwidth
7950Gt 44.8 GB per second
8800 GTS 320 MB 64 GB per second, plus has way more pipelines, better bang for yer buck

stabiz · 08-03-07, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by switch.dota

I'd rather have a 7950 over the 8800 or 7900, for the simple reason that DX 10 is useless right now and under DX 9 the 7950 is comparable to the 8800. By the time DX 10 will become needed, we'll have geforce 9 series.

That is just wrong. I had a 7950GT 512MB, and now I have a 8800 GTS 320MB. The difference is staggering.

simon11 · 08-03-07, 01:16 PM

To get the most out of an 8800GTX you need a good power supply and a good cpu. Plus a good bank account.

switch.dota · 08-03-07, 01:54 PM

A 7950GT will work miracles under XP. The advantages an 8800 provides over a 7950GT are minor in DX9 (aka windows XP). And by the time Vista is holding it's ground the 8 generation will be obsolete technology wise (first generation to support DX 10 - do you expect best performance off the bat?), so you'll need another upgrade anyway. Wheather it's from a 7950Gt or an average 8800 there's little difference.

stabiz · 08-03-07, 02:23 PM

:rotfl:Have you even tried an 8800? The 7950Gt is dwarfed by it.

cali03boss · 08-03-07, 03:53 PM

Quote:

My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?

If you're dead set on your AMD (it was my old one and very nice) then I'd say the 640 8800GT. If you're flexible on the processor/mobo i'd switch to a socket with a higher transfer rate. LGA 775 is great for games. Plus it supports AMD single, intel single, and intel multi core processors (very upgradeable). ALSO...be sure that the card you are buying does not project in DX10. Unless you're willing to upgrade to vista, some people make the mistake of buying a card with Vista drivers on it(who knows why).

If you need anymore more help, or want system specs on how to max out the game, just message me. I've been testing SH4 and SH3 on video cards all year.

FooFighters · 08-03-07, 03:53 PM

I see that that the opinion vary..

I know that the 8800 is a super card, but also twice the money of a 7950GT (euro 299->159).
Is it also twice te value in a XP DX9 enviroment..

If I was sure that the 8800 works perfect on my pc it's no problem.
But I still don't how my cpu will work with the 8800 ?

cali03boss · 08-03-07, 03:57 PM

psh...my 8800GTX was 400...

the CPU should have no problem. I was running the exact CPU on my older motherboard for SH3 with a similar card chipset and it ran good...not perfect...but good. In the end you can always do a compatability report from NVidia. But I don't see why it would have a problem.

FooFighters · 08-03-07, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali03boss

Quote:

My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?

If you're dead set on your AMD (it was my old one and very nice) then I'd say the 640 8800GT. If you're flexible on the processor/mobo i'd switch to a socket with a higher transfer rate. LGA 775 is great for games. Plus it supports AMD single, intel single, and intel multi core processors (very upgradeable). ALSO...be sure that the card you are buying does not project in DX10. Unless you're willing to upgrade to vista, some people make the mistake of buying a card with Vista drivers on it(who knows why).

If you need anymore more help, or want system specs on how to max out the game, just message me. I've been testing SH4 and SH3 on video cards all year.

For now I am pretty much fixed.. I have socket 754 which is pretty much out of the market. No real big upgrades are available. So for now the processor stays.
I don't have the money to change all..
The 640 8800 GTS is real nice, but also expensive (300 euro is really max)

What is your thought on the 7950GT ?
I was thinking of buying that one, and replace the cpu, mobo, memory and an 8800 in about 18 month. For now the upgrade is only for SH-IV.

I think the 8800 will be a lot cheaper then.

orangenee · 08-03-07, 04:02 PM

^^^The 8800 will be ancient news by then, at least in DX10 terms anyway.

FooFighters · 08-03-07, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by orangenee

^^^The 8800 will be ancient news by then, at least in DX10 terms anyway.

That means that it will be cheaper :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

cali03boss · 08-03-07, 04:07 PM

Quote:

For now I am pretty much fixed.. I have socket 754 which is pretty much out of the market. No real big upgrades are available. So for now the processor stays.
I don't have the money to change all..
The 640 8800 GTS is real nice, but also expensive (300 euro is really max)

What is your thought on the 7950GT ?
I was thinking of buying that one, and replace the cpu, mobo, memory and an 8800 in about 18 month. For now the upgrade is only for SH-IV.

I think the 8800 will be a lot cheaper then.

Honestly man, I say wait on the upgrade. In high school I used to do the single upgrade thing just cuz thats what I could afford. In the long run it hurts you because you end up buying a bunch of components made from different eras with different technology....and it just won't run the BEST it can. If you can wait 18 months, then make sure you sell your current card and buy just a cheap 512 to get you by. Buying a good motherboard(200), good processor(350-400), good video card(400-1000) all together with similar technology makes WORLDS of a difference. Plus gaming motherboards are upgradable up the wahzu. That's my 2 cents. Sorry if it is disappointing. But you'll LOVE gaming life if you just save up.

FooFighters · 08-03-07, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali03boss

Quote:

For now I am pretty much fixed.. I have socket 754 which is pretty much out of the market. No real big upgrades are available. So for now the processor stays.
I don't have the money to change all..
The 640 8800 GTS is real nice, but also expensive (300 euro is really max)

What is your thought on the 7950GT ?
I was thinking of buying that one, and replace the cpu, mobo, memory and an 8800 in about 18 month. For now the upgrade is only for SH-IV.

I think the 8800 will be a lot cheaper then.

Honestly man, I say wait on the upgrade. In high school I used to do the single upgrade thing just cuz thats what I could afford. In the long run it hurts you because you end up buying a bunch of components made from different eras with different technology....and it just won't run the BEST it can. If you can wait 18 months, then make sure you sell your current card and buy just a cheap 512 to get you by. Buying a good motherboard(200), good processor(350-400), good video card(400-1000) all together with similar technology makes WORLDS of a difference. Plus gaming motherboards are upgradable up the wahzu. That's my 2 cents. Sorry if it is disappointing. But you'll LOVE gaming life if you just save up.

I agree, but this XFX 7950GT 512mb is only euro 159
Not that much money if it removes the stuttering in SH-IV

cali03boss · 08-03-07, 04:12 PM

then you should be fine. AMD will run it.

xboxer · 08-03-07, 10:12 PM

I'm using a Athlon 3200 (Socket 754) and a 7600GT as well but with only 1.5 GB of RAM.

I think it runs fine now.

But to answer your question, definitely skip the 8600 cards. There are almost no difference between a 7600GT and a 8600GT.

The best choice will be a 8800GTS since it is pretty affordable nowadays.

08-03-07, 12:14 PM	#16
Gunner Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 177 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Reason went with 8800 over 7950GT is memory bandwidth 7950Gt 44.8 GB per second 8800 GTS 320 MB 64 GB per second, plus has way more pipelines, better bang for yer buck __________________

08-03-07, 02:23 PM	#20
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	:rotfl:Have you even tried an 8800? The 7950Gt is dwarfed by it. __________________

08-03-07, 03:53 PM	#22
FooFighters Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 813 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I see that that the opinion vary.. I know that the 8800 is a super card, but also twice the money of a 7950GT (euro 299->159). Is it also twice te value in a XP DX9 enviroment.. If I was sure that the 8800 works perfect on my pc it's no problem. But I still don't how my cpu will work with the 8800 ? __________________ This forum is not the same without you Dave.. we'll miss you buddy

08-03-07, 03:57 PM	#23
cali03boss Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 123 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	psh...my 8800GTX was 400... the CPU should have no problem. I was running the exact CPU on my older motherboard for SH3 with a similar card chipset and it ran good...not perfect...but good. In the end you can always do a compatability report from NVidia. But I don't see why it would have a problem. __________________ Sargo Class USS Sargo

08-03-07, 04:12 PM	#29
cali03boss Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 123 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	then you should be fine. AMD will run it. __________________ Sargo Class USS Sargo

08-03-07, 01:16 PM	#18
simon11 Watch Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 15 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	To get the most out of an 8800GTX you need a good power supply and a good cpu. Plus a good bank account.

08-03-07, 01:54 PM	#19
switch.dota Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 492 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A 7950GT will work miracles under XP. The advantages an 8800 provides over a 7950GT are minor in DX9 (aka windows XP). And by the time Vista is holding it's ground the 8 generation will be obsolete technology wise (first generation to support DX 10 - do you expect best performance off the bat?), so you'll need another upgrade anyway. Wheather it's from a 7950Gt or an average 8800 there's little difference.

08-03-07, 04:02 PM	#25
orangenee Engineer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 211 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	^^^The 8800 will be ancient news by then, at least in DX10 terms anyway.

08-03-07, 10:12 PM	#30
xboxer Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm using a Athlon 3200 (Socket 754) and a 7600GT as well but with only 1.5 GB of RAM. I think it runs fine now. But to answer your question, definitely skip the 8600 cards. There are almost no difference between a 7600GT and a 8600GT. The best choice will be a 8800GTS since it is pretty affordable nowadays.