Will there be a patch 1.4? - Page 2

John Channing · 07-23-07, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

I dont know if you remember or know that we (the community) literally had to go on begging campaign to get 1.3 It was absurd and frankly somewhat embarrising.

Im thinking another patch is highly unlikely.

I remember what people thought was happening.

Doesn't necessarily mean it was what was happening.

JCC

GT182 · 07-23-07, 11:45 AM

:hmm: How about Neal asking Ubi what their plans are, seeing he's kinda close and personal with them? If anyone could get an answer it might be our Fearless Leader Neal, seeing they respect him. And I say that with no disrespect.

Besides, they might just listen to him a bit more than the rest of us.

But only if he wants to step out in the bowspray and seek out the direction Ubi is going to take.

SteamWake · 07-23-07, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by John Channing

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

I dont know if you remember or know that we (the community) literally had to go on begging campaign to get 1.3 It was absurd and frankly somewhat embarrising.

Im thinking another patch is highly unlikely.

I remember what people thought was happening.

Doesn't necessarily mean it was what was happening.

JCC

Well they went to great lengths to make it appear that way. Not just here on SubSim but on the offical forums as well. Why all the drama ?

Seeadler · 07-23-07, 01:53 PM

In the business field of my company, software development for Embedded Systems, it is a matter of course to fix the problems in our products until they work in such a way like it were meant and for which our customers already paid. It does not play a role, whether a customer bought a module for 20€ or for 2000€, he must also not beg for the patches or praise us after he received them. It is for us simply a customer service.

Like Henry Ford said:
"It is not the employer who pays the wages. Employers only handle the money. It is the customer who pays the wages."

But here and now we are in the game dev/publishing business and that's another story ...so I think not, we don't see further Ubisoft patches for this game.

chopped50ford · 07-23-07, 02:15 PM

I sure hope so, will UBI bail on us now?

John Channing · 07-23-07, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

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Originally Posted by John Channing

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

I dont know if you remember or know that we (the community) literally had to go on begging campaign to get 1.3 It was absurd and frankly somewhat embarrising.

Im thinking another patch is highly unlikely.

I remember what people thought was happening.

Doesn't necessarily mean it was what was happening.

JCC

Well they went to great lengths to make it appear that way. Not just here on SubSim but on the offical forums as well. Why all the drama ?

I agree there was/is a great deal of drama regarding 1.03. I just don't happen to think it was on the part of Ubisoft...

JCC

Go4It · 07-23-07, 08:57 PM

Did the DEV fix anything in atch 1.3? I find most of the same problems still exits, at least for me they do.........

Uninstall SH4, cleaned registry, installed SH4, patches to 1.3. Using all my own mods since I can't DL any....

Go4It · 07-23-07, 09:11 PM

Aaaaaaahhhhhh.... JUST found a site that has FREE DL of SH4 mods, I'd like to thank the person an his site but if I mention the site they may screw me an stop the DL's

Reaves · 07-23-07, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Go4It

Aaaaaaahhhhhh.... JUST found a site that has FREE DL of SH4 mods, I'd like to thank the person an his site but if I mention the site they may screw me an stop the DL's

Have a look here on subsim. The modders forum is probably the best place for SH4, SH3 and SH2 mods.

Oh, and I think 1.4 will be coming although I have very few problems with the game now.

Jmack · 07-24-07, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Jmack

its still needed since there still are things to be fixed or added to the game !

But there are still things to be fixed or added to SH3.

I completely agree that those things do need to be fixed, but the only ones who can give a real answer are UBISoft themselves.

deep down i know he loves me ... :p

Excalibur Bane · 07-24-07, 02:00 PM

JCC

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Well they went to great lengths to make it appear that way. Not just here on SubSim but on the offical forums as well. Why all the drama ?

I agree there was/is a great deal of drama regarding 1.03. I just don't happen to think it was on the part of Ubisoft...

JCC

A great deal of drama? That's putting it mildy. One of the QA testers manage to leak the final patch to us, and meanwhile half the moderators here assure that is that NOT the final patch, when it is in fact the final patch. It's "months old and many changes have been fixed". Well, obviously that was not the case. The leaked "beta" was identical. This is not professional, in any way or form. I feel sorry for the moderators and other people preaching that the beta was not final. It must suck to be lied to so badly. This will be my last Ubisoft game in the Silent Hunter series.

Placer · 07-24-07, 04:16 PM

Personally, I have had many hours of highly entertaining quality time playing Silent Hunter IV. It is not perfect, but it is a darn good approximation of submarine warfare in the Pacific during WWII.

I appreciate all of the work that the developers have put into this game and the subsequent patches. It is obvious that the devs really put their heart into it. I would welcome a 1.4 patch, but I recognize that it may not be possible from Ubisoft's business perspective. I hope they understand the value of taking care of their customers, though, and make their support decisions accordingly.

I'm a bit embarrassed, however, by all of the grousing about SHIV on these boards. So the game's not perfect. Neither am I. Nor is anyone else for that matter. I'm sorry that many of you are having such a miserable experience with it.

But SHIV is loads of fun, and I expect to spend many more hours enjoying it.

Bear · 07-24-07, 04:34 PM

I don't know. It would have to be a monster patch and I just don't see Ubi being that concerned with standard computer games or customer service connected to those games. I would like to think that a game with this sims possibilies would be worth saving. But, other Ubi games have needed additional patches that didn't get them. Why should we think this game would be any different.

I for one am sadly disapointed with the game play quality of this game, not the art of the game. I swear I have tried hard to like this game and I guess I will continue to play it from time to time. But I am burnt out trying to mod this "thing" around to where I can enjoy playing it. Fix one thing and find two that might not have been broken in the last patch, but are now.

In my line of work I help people learn to deal with their problems day in and day out so when I need a break from reality. I want to enjoy something that helps relieve the stress not add to it with quality problems in the game.

Will there be a patch 4? I wouldn't bet on it. Would I recommend this game to others? I damn sure wouldn't bet on that. I think I am going to do one more clean install, go back to patch 2 and the mods that made it work then. If a patch 4 should appear then I will try it, but I will not count on it. I could handle being wrong. I could say I was wrong without hesitation if they could but make it right.

ReM · 07-24-07, 04:46 PM

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I for one am sadly disapointed with the game play quality of this game, not the art of the game. I swear I have tried hard to like this game

Same feeling here, but I am convinced it will get better one way or another...

It will be good in a couple of months, no matter who will fix it, UBI or the modders.

John Channing · 07-24-07, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur Bane

JCC

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Well they went to great lengths to make it appear that way. Not just here on SubSim but on the offical forums as well. Why all the drama ?

I agree there was/is a great deal of drama regarding 1.03. I just don't happen to think it was on the part of Ubisoft...

JCC

A great deal of drama? That's putting it mildy. One of the QA testers manage to leak the final patch to us, and meanwhile half the moderators here assure that is that NOT the final patch, when it is in fact the final patch. It's "months old and many changes have been fixed". Well, obviously that was not the case. The leaked "beta" was identical. This is not professional, in any way or form. I feel sorry for the moderators and other people preaching that the beta was not final. It must suck to be lied to so badly. This will be my last Ubisoft game in the Silent Hunter series.

You know... if you are going to go so far out of your way as to ignore the actual subject of a conversation just to take the opportunity to call people liars you might just want to consider the thickness of the ice you are standing on.

You also might want to consider that you may not have a clue about what you are talking about.

JCC

07-23-07, 11:45 AM	#17
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	:hmm: How about Neal asking Ubi what their plans are, seeing he's kinda close and personal with them? If anyone could get an answer it might be our Fearless Leader Neal, seeing they respect him. And I say that with no disrespect. Besides, they might just listen to him a bit more than the rest of us. But only if he wants to step out in the bowspray and seek out the direction Ubi is going to take. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

07-23-07, 02:15 PM	#20
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I sure hope so, will UBI bail on us now? __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/

07-24-07, 04:16 PM	#27
Placer Bilge Rat Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH4 is a great sub game Personally, I have had many hours of highly entertaining quality time playing Silent Hunter IV. It is not perfect, but it is a darn good approximation of submarine warfare in the Pacific during WWII. I appreciate all of the work that the developers have put into this game and the subsequent patches. It is obvious that the devs really put their heart into it. I would welcome a 1.4 patch, but I recognize that it may not be possible from Ubisoft's business perspective. I hope they understand the value of taking care of their customers, though, and make their support decisions accordingly. I'm a bit embarrassed, however, by all of the grousing about SHIV on these boards. So the game's not perfect. Neither am I. Nor is anyone else for that matter. I'm sorry that many of you are having such a miserable experience with it. But SHIV is loads of fun, and I expect to spend many more hours enjoying it.

07-24-07, 04:34 PM	#28
Bear Helmsman Join Date: May 2005 Location: CSA - Confused States of America Posts: 107 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I don't know. It would have to be a monster patch and I just don't see Ubi being that concerned with standard computer games or customer service connected to those games. I would like to think that a game with this sims possibilies would be worth saving. But, other Ubi games have needed additional patches that didn't get them. Why should we think this game would be any different. I for one am sadly disapointed with the game play quality of this game, not the art of the game. I swear I have tried hard to like this game and I guess I will continue to play it from time to time. But I am burnt out trying to mod this "thing" around to where I can enjoy playing it. Fix one thing and find two that might not have been broken in the last patch, but are now. In my line of work I help people learn to deal with their problems day in and day out so when I need a break from reality. I want to enjoy something that helps relieve the stress not add to it with quality problems in the game. Will there be a patch 4? I wouldn't bet on it. Would I recommend this game to others? I damn sure wouldn't bet on that. I think I am going to do one more clean install, go back to patch 2 and the mods that made it work then. If a patch 4 should appear then I will try it, but I will not count on it. I could handle being wrong. I could say I was wrong without hesitation if they could but make it right. __________________ "When you are going to kill someone, it cost nothing to be polite." CRS

07-23-07, 01:53 PM	#19
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,096 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	In the business field of my company, software development for Embedded Systems, it is a matter of course to fix the problems in our products until they work in such a way like it were meant and for which our customers already paid. It does not play a role, whether a customer bought a module for 20€ or for 2000€, he must also not beg for the patches or praise us after he received them. It is for us simply a customer service. Like Henry Ford said: "It is not the employer who pays the wages. Employers only handle the money. It is the customer who pays the wages." But here and now we are in the game dev/publishing business and that's another story ...so I think not, we don't see further Ubisoft patches for this game.

07-23-07, 08:57 PM	#22
Go4It Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South of Buffalo N.Y. USA Posts: 209 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Did the DEV fix anything in atch 1.3? I find most of the same problems still exits, at least for me they do......... Uninstall SH4, cleaned registry, installed SH4, patches to 1.3. Using all my own mods since I can't DL any....

07-23-07, 09:11 PM	#23
Go4It Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South of Buffalo N.Y. USA Posts: 209 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Aaaaaaahhhhhh.... JUST found a site that has FREE DL of SH4 mods, I'd like to thank the person an his site but if I mention the site they may screw me an stop the DL's