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Old 07-09-07, 04:07 AM   #16
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If the game is hard and you can`t reach 1945,immagine how it would of been in reality,i`ve read somewhere that beginning with 44 the subs rarely maked it alive after the seccond time they left the base.
I wonder if the 21 type subs had a longer life span.The antisub warfare i think was more evolved then the subs contrameasures.
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Old 07-09-07, 04:31 AM   #17
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the only way to find it out is to try it
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Old 07-09-07, 04:37 AM   #18
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If the game is hard and you can`t reach 1945,immagine how it would of been in reality,i`ve read somewhere that beginning with 44 the subs rarely maked it alive after the seccond time they left the base.
I wonder if the 21 type subs had a longer life span.The antisub warfare i think was more evolved then the subs contrameasures.
That evolution of technique on both sides dictates the game and imo is one of its best parts of the game.
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Old 07-09-07, 09:50 AM   #19
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I think the career length mainly depends on ...

1. your luck!!! (you won't survive if you're not lucky with air attacks)
2. the realism setting you use for the game
3. your general experience with sub sims
4. your mental and physical state (a drunk kaleun will never live long, except for Brag, maybe )

Well, I wasn't lucky enough so far. I always get killed by aircraft.
My longest career lasted till the end of 1941, where I was attacked by an aircraft and torn to pieces.
The really bad thing was that I was already returning to home port (less than 30 km to go).

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WoW!! That close to homeport and your luck ran out. Amazing!

Luck and realism plays a big part for sure. I started a few careers in 43 and 44 and just about all of them ended after an aircraft attack. I started this career at 74% with manual targeting "off" so that does make it easier trying to shake and bake a destroyer.

My next career will be manual targeting so I assume my tonnage figures will be more realistic and not as bloated as they are now. Thus far, 23 ships total. 14 merchants and 9 warships. Survived one nasty air attack though...got lucky!

GWX definitely is not kind to drunken Kaleuns.

GoldenRivet what a game! Three hours of DC's? Holy smokes!!!

Span of career:
September 1, 1939 - October 14, 1943

Fate:
After evading nearly three hours of depth charge and hedge hog attacks the boat was damaged too seriously and the crew scuttled the U-boat in grid CG72.

Sinkings:
86 merchants and 23 warships, including the U.S.S. Prince William for a career total of 728,968 tons. U-90 also claimed one aircraft shot down.

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Old 07-09-07, 10:25 AM   #20
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It also depends a lot on your Flotilla/patrol areas/U-Boot. The Mediterranean is certainly no Kindergarten, while the South Atlantic and Indian Ocean doesn't put that much pressure on you until a bit later (1943):hmm:
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Old 07-09-07, 11:45 AM   #21
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U-123 (IXB) made it to spring of 1944, but was sunk off the South African coast. Damn, was I pissed LOL

I do tend to take more risks as my careers go on. I think it's because you have survived this long, nothing can hurt me! Boom, you're dead

U-123 was lost with all hands though after half a day of depthcharging. No unlucky encounter with airplanes fortunately, but I do get jumped from time to time.
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Old 07-10-07, 11:20 PM   #22
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1 02JUN40 - 04JUN40 (3 tage)11 (5/6)48732 (28116/20616)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 97.67%)

2 12JUN40 - 16JUN40 (5 tage)13 (3/10)50751 (16640/34111)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 94.02%)

3 23JUN40 - 26JUN40 (4 tage)7 (2/5)19222 (13282/5940)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 60.19%)

4 08AUG40 - 10AUG40 (3 tage)27 (15/12)152657 (82139/70518)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 61.45%)

5 18SEP40 - 21SEP40 (4 tage)31 (23/8)115023 (96848/18175)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 90.41%)

6 02OKT40 - 11OKT40 (10 tage)14 (0/14)80696 (0/80696)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 98.30%)

7 20NOV40 - 01DEZ40 (12 tage)74 (41/33)238921 (154123/84798)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 54.80%)

8 19JAN41 - 21JAN41 (3 tage)21 (6/15)60326 (35664/24662)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 66.22%)

9 26FEB41 - 04MRZ41 (7 tage)46 (32/14)153953 (138758/15195)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 55.09%)

10 19APR41 - 22APR41 (4 tage)44 (36/8)213697 (204896/8801)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 75.03%)

11 18MAI41 - 21MAI41 (4 tage)30 (24/6)137454 (130741/6713)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 52.41%)

12 09JUL41 - 12JUL41 (4 tage)57 (49/8)232626 (223836/8790)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 56.07%)

13 26AUG41 - 29AUG41 (4 tage)53 (42/11)195170 (182480/12690)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 13.00%)

14 26NOV41 - 28NOV41 (3 tage)51 (46/5)252367 (246717/5650)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 23.30%)

15 14FEB42 - 22FEB42 (9 tage)11 (1/10)51608 (7333/44275)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 74.07%)

16 21MRZ42 - 22MRZ42 (2 tage)6 (0/6)7500 (0/7500)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 65.62%)

17 27APR42 - 28APR42 (2 tage)28 (23/5)128006 (121756/6250)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 49.39%)

18 19JUN42 - 20JUN42 (2 tage)6 (0/6)7500 (0/7500)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 51.24%)

19 09AUG42 - 19AUG42 (11 tage)1 (1/0)6768 (6768/0)

GESAMT:19 feindfahrten (96 tage)
531 (349/182) 2152977 (1690097/462880)
10 abgeschossene flugzeuge
54 besatzungsverluste

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Old 07-11-07, 02:00 AM   #23
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If the game is hard and you can`t reach 1945,immagine how it would of been in reality,i`ve read somewhere that beginning with 44 the subs rarely maked it alive after the seccond time they left the base.
I wonder if the 21 type subs had a longer life span.The antisub warfare i think was more evolved then the subs contrameasures.
If you've read that, then you've also read about the hapless souls who had to make multiple attempts at returning to port. Planes jumped them in Biscay to the point that uboats were "phoning in" saying they were trying "one more time", and requesting escort (or at least the Luftwaffe to get off its arse and do something about taking back the Bay).
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Old 07-11-07, 04:26 AM   #24
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Hi,

It's the first time I play because I discovered SH3 few month ago.
This is my first career and I'm in 54% realism.
Actually we are december 1st 1942 and I begin the 22th mission in the 11th Flot. at Bergen onboard IXb.
I approach the 900.000 tons.

But, tell me, where can I watch how many warships and how many marchand ships are killed ?

Of course, actually many save are used.
But next campagn will be more serious, realism up and don't use the save to live more.
Before I must learn many things again...

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Old 07-11-07, 04:58 AM   #25
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26AUG41 - 29AUG41 (4 tage)53 (42/11)195170 (182480/12690)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 13.00%)
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Old 07-11-07, 05:05 AM   #26
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26AUG41 - 29AUG41 (4 tage)53 (42/11)195170 (182480/12690)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 13.00%)

... what dont you understand ?

if its how manny ships i sank then take a look at this one

7 20NOV40 - 01DEZ40 (12 tage)74 (41/33)238921 (154123/84798)U-Boot beschädigt (R. 54.80%)


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Old 07-11-07, 05:15 AM   #27
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No, it's the percentage at the end, that's why I underlined it. Doesn't that number stand for boat's integrity? Seems as if it barely made it home during that one.
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Old 07-11-07, 05:19 AM   #28
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had an encounter with an "Hunter Killer" group after whiping out a convoy
had dammage 70% intact hull after the convoy. a hour later the "hunter killer" group arrived and a sea battle started.
6 to 1 quite fair isnt that


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Old 07-11-07, 05:30 AM   #29
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Unfortunately I forgot how to show the hull integrity on the damage screen, but the boat looked nice after a dd suddenly came out of a bank of fog the other day. The crash dive ended after 60 meters due to the pressure.
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Old 07-11-07, 05:36 AM   #30
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kill da basterd with the DG

and if your crew doesnt want to... take your lugher *evil lough*




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