Smoke Stack MOD ? - Page 2

CaptainCox · 07-18-07, 12:11 AM

I might come back to this on the week end. I have a mod I use for personal use, But still the problem for "me" is that you cant see the smoke over the horizon, This is due to the LOD in the game I think.

CaptainCox · 07-18-07, 12:54 AM

This is what I have at the mo (again its just what I stopped at when doing this some week ago)

Lagger123987 · 07-18-07, 02:18 AM

Captain Cox, where can I find the tweak file for the smokestack smoke?

THE_MASK · 07-18-07, 03:03 AM

Look for Anvarts reply in this thread and click on his mod page for smoke tweak files . Dont know if they are for 1.3 though .

CaptainCox · 07-18-07, 03:35 AM

I ported a tweak file for SH4 earlier in this thread, that's the one I used for now.
http://files.filefront.com/funnel+sm.../fileinfo.html

Canonicus · 07-18-07, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

This is what I have at the mo (again its just what I stopped at when doing this some week ago)

Thanks fo the info Captain...very helpful....

BTW...these adjustments really make the smoke look and act much more realistic.

I fooled around with the different values a liitle bit...you know...by trial and error, just to see if I could effect an improvement, especially the tendency for the smoke to POOF and PUFF out and intervals....not too realistic, I think.

My efforts to make it stop or at least diminish it were in vain, unfortunately.
I tried too many combinations to keep track of. The old recycle bin was absolutely filled to the brim with Copy of Particles files!

Honestly...I kept going back to your "Stock" values you have listed...seems to be a pretty good compromise. Not to say that more could be done, of course, but...certainly, more than a 100% improvement.

NOW...if we could only figure out how to make it BETTER!

And then...add exhaust smoke to the subs...wouldn't that be nice!

Cheers!

Hitman · 07-19-07, 02:31 AM

A little update about the horizon/visibility matter that could be of some use here....

I have been experimenting with several Zmax values for horizon, and while higher ones seem somehow to break the normal graphics behaviour of "masts over the horizon", a test I did run using the same values of SH3 16k visibility mod (Zmax=2000) showed good results both for hull-down appearence and smoke. Note that I didn't use any smoke mod, and the original smoke is very faint, yet I was able to see it a higher distances than normally:hmm:

I am starting to think that there is a sort of skydome of large size that allows rendering the main part of ships (Hull, masts) very far, but there is somewhere a horizon limit in the horizontal base (Where the sea is rendered) where the game stops rendering the details if the ship is further than its limit. The key seems to be to find the upper limit of that. Should be somewhere between 16000 metres and 20000 metres, as that last value was mentioned by the Devs during an interview, yet finally seems not to have made it into the game.

Oh, and one more thing: My crew didn't show in preliminary testings vampire vision bug at night

CaptainCox · 07-19-07, 04:26 AM

@Hitman, thats some really cool stuff you found out there. Will try it out when home from work.

WilhelmTell · 07-20-07, 04:14 PM

Help needed!
I was playing around with the particles.dat for a while and just wanted to revert to the original file. But i stupidly forgot to back it up.

Can someone please upload the original 1.3 particles.dat ? Or send it via email ?
I would be very grateful.

Regards,
Tell

CaptainCox · 07-20-07, 04:27 PM

Here ya go

http://www.mediafire.com/?18mnyeg9ecg

WilhelmTell · 07-20-07, 05:31 PM

Thanks alot for the quick respond, Captain Cox !
I'll better rename the copyofparticles.dat now instead of deleting it.

Tell

chopped50ford · 07-23-07, 07:57 PM

is there a file we can use JSME to input the changes for better smoke? Is this compatable to Tmaru 1.3a?

Jace11 · 07-23-07, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman

A little update about the horizon/visibility matter that could be of some use here....

I have been experimenting with several Zmax values for horizon, and while higher ones seem somehow to break the normal graphics behaviour of "masts over the horizon", a test I did run using the same values of SH3 16k visibility mod (Zmax=2000) showed good results both for hull-down appearence and smoke. Note that I didn't use any smoke mod, and the original smoke is very faint, yet I was able to see it a higher distances than normally:hmm:

I am starting to think that there is a sort of skydome of large size that allows rendering the main part of ships (Hull, masts) very far, but there is somewhere a horizon limit in the horizontal base (Where the sea is rendered) where the game stops rendering the details if the ship is further than its limit. The key seems to be to find the upper limit of that. Should be somewhere between 16000 metres and 20000 metres, as that last value was mentioned by the Devs during an interview, yet finally seems not to have made it into the game.

Oh, and one more thing: My crew didn't show in preliminary testings vampire vision bug at night

Regards range thing...

Pause the game and move your camera away from ship...

There are strange stories that tell of the end of the world.. at some point when time has stopped and your eyes travel at great speed one will reach the end of the world... at the end of the world, the blue sea is gone and ships float on air...

at what exact range this happens I cannot tell thee my lad, but I have seen it with my own two eyes and magical it is...

Fearless · 07-23-07, 09:13 PM

I must be doing something wrong. I tried changing those settings CC shows in the above post but it's not doing anything. :hmm:

Can you advise what the correct procedure is to get this to work?

Thanks in advance.

nattydread · 07-24-07, 01:42 AM

im not sure if it sbeen mentioned, but its important to make sure it sknown that not all ships made dark, blotchy smoke. warships made an active attempt to keep black smoke to a minimum if not almost eliminate it, newer commercial vessels using diesel and such burned relativly clean also. The big belchers where the coal burning steam engined ships.

I would certainly hope devs make an attempt to follow historical data when implenting these smoke mods. Or atleast provide an optional historical smoke mod.

Oh yeah, and please oh please I hope someone figures out how to extend visual range and smoke sightings over the horizon....man, oh man would you make my day!

Especially since Im a 100%er with no external camera, i can care less if teh ships float in space with no water modeled when over teh horizon...I wont see it anyway. Aslong as it looks right from my perspective on the conning tower, so be it!!!

07-18-07, 12:11 AM	#16
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I might come back to this on the week end. I have a mod I use for personal use, But still the problem for "me" is that you cant see the smoke over the horizon, This is due to the LOD in the game I think. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

07-18-07, 12:54 AM	#17
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	This is what I have at the mo (again its just what I stopped at when doing this some week ago) __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

07-18-07, 02:18 AM	#18
Lagger123987 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Little Saigon, San Jose, California Posts: 944 Downloads: 323 Uploads: 4	Captain Cox, where can I find the tweak file for the smokestack smoke? __________________

07-18-07, 03:35 AM	#20
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I ported a tweak file for SH4 earlier in this thread, that's the one I used for now. http://files.filefront.com/funnel+sm.../fileinfo.html __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

07-19-07, 02:31 AM	#22
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	A little update about the horizon/visibility matter that could be of some use here.... I have been experimenting with several Zmax values for horizon, and while higher ones seem somehow to break the normal graphics behaviour of "masts over the horizon", a test I did run using the same values of SH3 16k visibility mod (Zmax=2000) showed good results both for hull-down appearence and smoke. Note that I didn't use any smoke mod, and the original smoke is very faint, yet I was able to see it a higher distances than normally:hmm: I am starting to think that there is a sort of skydome of large size that allows rendering the main part of ships (Hull, masts) very far, but there is somewhere a horizon limit in the horizontal base (Where the sea is rendered) where the game stops rendering the details if the ship is further than its limit. The key seems to be to find the upper limit of that. Should be somewhere between 16000 metres and 20000 metres, as that last value was mentioned by the Devs during an interview, yet finally seems not to have made it into the game. Oh, and one more thing: My crew didn't show in preliminary testings vampire vision bug at night __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-18-07, 03:03 AM	#19
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Look for Anvarts reply in this thread and click on his mod page for smoke tweak files . Dont know if they are for 1.3 though .

07-19-07, 04:26 AM	#23
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	@Hitman, thats some really cool stuff you found out there. Will try it out when home from work. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

07-20-07, 04:14 PM	#24
WilhelmTell Engineer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany, Europe Posts: 205 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Help needed! I was playing around with the particles.dat for a while and just wanted to revert to the original file. But i stupidly forgot to back it up. Can someone please upload the original 1.3 particles.dat ? Or send it via email ? I would be very grateful. Regards, Tell

07-20-07, 04:27 PM	#25
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Here ya go http://www.mediafire.com/?18mnyeg9ecg __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

07-20-07, 05:31 PM	#26
WilhelmTell Engineer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany, Europe Posts: 205 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Thanks alot for the quick respond, Captain Cox ! I'll better rename the copyofparticles.dat now instead of deleting it. Tell

07-23-07, 07:57 PM	#27
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	is there a file we can use JSME to input the changes for better smoke? Is this compatable to Tmaru 1.3a? __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/

07-23-07, 09:13 PM	#29
Fearless Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,047 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 1	I must be doing something wrong. I tried changing those settings CC shows in the above post but it's not doing anything. :hmm: Can you advise what the correct procedure is to get this to work? Thanks in advance. __________________ Fearless System Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8 Core 16 Thread CPU, 3.8GHz Base Clock, 4.7GHz Boost, 105W TDP, 32MB L3 cache \| MSI GeForce RTX3060Ti 8Gb Graphics \| Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32Gb (2x16Gb) 3200 MHz CL16 DDR4 Ram \| Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD 1TB \| Seagate Barracuda 2.5in 2TB HDD \| AOC QHD 165 Hz FreeSync HDR curved 31.5in Monitor \| ASUS ROG Strix LC 240 ARGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler White Edition \| ASUS ROG Strix Gold 750W Modular Power Supply \| Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case White.

07-24-07, 01:42 AM	#30
nattydread Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 498 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	im not sure if it sbeen mentioned, but its important to make sure it sknown that not all ships made dark, blotchy smoke. warships made an active attempt to keep black smoke to a minimum if not almost eliminate it, newer commercial vessels using diesel and such burned relativly clean also. The big belchers where the coal burning steam engined ships. I would certainly hope devs make an attempt to follow historical data when implenting these smoke mods. Or atleast provide an optional historical smoke mod. Oh yeah, and please oh please I hope someone figures out how to extend visual range and smoke sightings over the horizon....man, oh man would you make my day! Especially since Im a 100%er with no external camera, i can care less if teh ships float in space with no water modeled when over teh horizon...I wont see it anyway. Aslong as it looks right from my perspective on the conning tower, so be it!!!