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Old 06-21-07, 02:25 PM   #1
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Why is it so difficult to find reviews on large CRT's? My monitor is on the fritz and I want to replace it with at least a 21", non-Sony tube, preferably one with Invar Shadow Mask. The problem is, LCD's have have become so cheap, everyone is selling them like hotcakes! I like my Samsung LCD's for normal windows work, but for gaming, CRT is still king. ANyway, I didn't think it would be so difficult to find a good CRT, so anyone with some recent reviews, I would be much appreciative of them if they can supply a link!

-S

PS. This one looks decent, but I'm willing to spend up to $700 to $800 if need be for something bigger - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116121 - Not sure I want to hit the $1000 range though, but I will if there is something that I just can't pass up. Hitachi I think still makes larger Invar Shadowmask CRT's as OEM parts, but I'm not sure. I don't want Sony (nor Mitsubishi either) because their color is not so hot (looks washed out pastel like), and I can see the wires in the monitor, which really bugs me. As I type this, I have 2x Sony 21" on this very desk, and I am looking at the two wires in the screen!

PPS. I know, I'm demanding! But I can still hope someone has an answer, no?
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Old 06-21-07, 02:34 PM   #2
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You may find some stuff in here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...light=monitors

Just noticed, many comments are regarding LCDs.

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Old 06-21-07, 03:03 PM   #3
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You may find some stuff in here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...light=monitors

Just noticed, many comments are regarding LCDs.

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Yep - most are LCD, and no real good review sites that I can read (one in German only). LCD's can only produce about 30% of the color spectrum for your eyes, while a CRT, depending on qaulity, can produce 70% to 80%. I look at my expensive Samsungs, which have the best image quality and color quality I can find in LCD, but my CRT outclasses it by quite a margin when it comes to color reproduction. I'd demostrate for you if you were here. Thanks though for trying.

That Viewsonic is my only choice so far.

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PS. I bought a rather large desk too, with a deep monitor corner, so large CRT's 70 to 100 lbs, don't bother me. I have the room for it.
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Old 06-21-07, 03:11 PM   #4
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I have this SONY 20 inch LED which I picked up a few years ago and I'm very happy with it. It allows both the nine pin and the DVI connection. I'd recommend SONY without reservation.
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You may find some stuff in here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...light=monitors

Just noticed, many comments are regarding LCDs.

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Yep - most are LCD, and no real good review sites that I can read (one in German only). LCD's can only produce about 30% of the color spectrum for your eyes, while a CRT, depending on qaulity, can produce 70% to 80%. I look at my expensive Samsungs, which have the best image quality and color quality I can find in LCD, but my CRT outclasses it by quite a margin when it comes to color reproduction. I'd demostrate for you if you were here. Thanks though for trying.

That Viewsonic is my only choice so far.

-S

PS. I bought a rather large desk too, with a deep monitor corner, so large CRT's 70 to 100 lbs, don't bother me. I have the room for it.
Yep, I've had great luck with Veiwsonic too. And you can't beat the price on the big CRT's now. But I have a big desk too, so space doesn't matter to me either.
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My brother was moving house last summer. only two streets over, but I had to carry the 20-inch CRT.

I'll never forgive him
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My brother was moving house last summer. only two streets over, but I had to carry the 20-inch CRT.

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They can be heavy. I think 21" adds another 15 lbs though. I'm currently running a 19" LG 995E as my main monitor at home, with a 20" IBM as a secondary monitor (I usually have Media Center running on this secondary monitor if I am not using it for video processing) on my main system. The Vista system has 2x 21" but they are Sony tubes and clearly not as colorful as the 19" LG. I am wondering if I should just have that LG fixed??? I love that thing. Most colorful contrasty monitor I have ever seen. It is night and day, even over the IBM monitor sitting next to it.

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I got this (<- link) recently and it disappointed me after hearing so much hype about LCDs.

It doesn't ghost, it just looses one notch of "sharpness". It's extremely bright, which should make it last long enough to be worth the price, I hope, but I still prefer my CRTs because they just look better.

Is the 226BW a cheap, crappy, outdated LCD or something?
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Old 06-28-07, 09:57 PM   #9
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I got this (<- link) recently and it disappointed me after hearing so much hype about LCDs.

It doesn't ghost, it just looses one notch of "sharpness". It's extremely bright, which should make it last long enough to be worth the price, I hope, but I still prefer my CRTs because they just look better.

Is the 226BW a cheap, crappy, outdated LCD or something?
It looks good to me as far as the specs go. Faster than its larger cousin that i am looking at. Your post though disturbs me in that you lose sharpness with fast action.

Now you just made me want a CRT again! Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and buy that Viewsonic.

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[quote=TteFAboB]I got this (<- link) recently and it disappointed me after hearing so much hype about LCDs.

It doesn't ghost, it just looses one notch of "sharpness". It's extremely bright, which should make it last long enough to be worth the price, I hope, but I still prefer my CRTs because they just look better.

Is the 226BW a cheap, crappy, outdated LCD or something?[/quote

3 weeks old from the box.

The CRT is almost 4 years ol...

and i use sli but whent back and fort,

\stricker mobo with pipeline...and 2x 8800 with 4 screens undepended set to 1 only....bad drivers and all

funstuff happening wit the rendering of thin lines and shine...

stil working on graph. sets.
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Old 06-28-07, 11:31 PM   #11
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Don't take my word for it, I don't know if the technical term is indeed sharpness. What I mean is that if I scroll through text fast, for example, I can notice that the thin letters become thicker and a little blurred, which is the same effect I can get while sitting still by turning down one notch in the sharpness setting, if I'm not mistaken. I don't even have it installed right now to check it. I'm leaving it to my secondary PC. The huge size is amazing for reading stuff and viewing stuff, you get all my compliments in this regard, but I can't avoid noticing the very subtle "blurring" in the games, which isn't like the old ghosting, no, they got that one solved alright, but it still makes simulators feel a bit eerie.

You can't really notice anything when things are moving really fast in a colorful game, but when they move just fast enough, not too fast and not too slow, you can feel that something's wrong.
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