Catalyst 7.5 not recommended..my opinion

Torps · 06-05-07, 08:42 PM

After uninstalling the 7.4 version and installing 7.5 I found I am no longer able to run SH4 anywhere near 1680 X 1050. The frame rates have dropped considerably , especially facing the horizon or anything other then open water,ie my sub or anything on the surface. Tested on....

Custom Built
Core 2 E6700 OC to 3GHZ
Intel 975XB Express Chipset BX2
4GB DDR2 800mhz OCZ Gaming Memory
ATI 1950XTX PCI-E
500GB RAID 5, Sata II 16mb (3x)HITACHI HD's
22in Benq WS

Any comments or questions please do ask/tell.

Good hunting.

-Pv- · 06-05-07, 11:12 PM

I assume you ran at this same rez previously and you didn't change any of the game features. Since you know the frames dropped, what was the previous average compared to the current average at the same rez and game options?

I would never attempt that rez myself. I would need a magnifying glass just to know what game I was playing.
-Pv-

Stew U-582 · 06-06-07, 04:45 AM

Well I tried updating catalyst 7.5 and I couldnt even get a picture anymore.
had to boot up in safe mode and revert back to 7.4

Fish40 · 06-06-07, 05:44 AM

Still useing Cat7.3's for my X1650pro! Besides the problem of no sun glare, there are no problems.

AVGWarhawk · 06-06-07, 05:51 AM

Yeah, something is wrong with 7.5. I used this on my Dads computer. Whenever I booted it said it could not find some file etc. I had to use the add/remove program to take out the CCC file. Then I reverted to 7.3 for him. Bad mojo with 7.5.

SteamWake · 06-06-07, 09:15 AM

Phew once again Im glad I waited. :p

Torps · 06-06-07, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Pv-

I assume you ran at this same rez previously and you didn't change any of the game features. Since you know the frames dropped, what was the previous average compared to the current average at the same rez and game options?

I would never attempt that rez myself. I would need a magnifying glass just to know what game I was playing.
-Pv-

With 7.4 when I would go to external view the frame rates would be low initially but then the card would kick up to around 40fps give or take and i could fly around any ship,plane etc with no issues. With 7.5 It would take maybe 1-2 seconds longer to get to the external view and the game would drop to around 15 fps sometimes less. I made sure before I ran SH4 on Cat 7.5 the same settings were ap-plied as it was on 7.4.

AA X 6 + Temporal
ATROPIC X16

Everything else on high quality. I have not messed with open GL since the image is awesome anyway. I might later today though.No magnifying glass needed by the way, just a larger widescreen 21+.

walsh2509 · 06-06-07, 08:22 PM

Don't laugh! But I bought a GF6600GT 6/7months ago and it blew up well it didn't work any more ...

But I got decent FR and the sim looked good (well as good as it gets with a 6600GT, which was not too bad).

Anyhoo, I sent it back and got a call nearly 28days later saying that they had no GT6600GTs left and they were shipping me a replacement ( a better card? I couldn't tell you one way or another! may be one of you can) any way I get a x1650 512mb card delivered and I install it. The disc that came with it had the drivers, but I went to the ATI site and followed the d/ld Q's like HomeXP/x1650 and it took me to the latest drivers for the card I guess.

When I seen the posts about drivers and the 7.? whatever I had a look in Hardware and the driver I d/ld was 8.3 (good /bad??? anyone?) and when I was messing about in Sub school = torp school after I sunk the ship I went after the fishing boats with my deckgun. I noticed that even within 500mts of them the top of the sail was missing it ws flickering in and out and it looked like the sail had been cut straight across near the top...

Never had that with the GF6600GT is it the x1650 (it is a better card ? ) and if so , is it the driver I d/ld (8.3) that is causing the flickering on the top of the sail?

Fish40 · 06-06-07, 09:06 PM

I think you mean 7.3, no? The latest cat drivers for ATI are 7.5's.

I'm useing the 7.3's with my X1650 pro, and have no graphical glitches at all. The flickering is an issue that is seen by many who own both ATI, and Nvidia. I don't think there is a definite answer to that one. There also was a seperate thread a while ago dealing with the "Flickering Textures" issue. Do a forum search, and you may be able to dig it up.

Another thought: Did you completly remove all traces of your old graphics driver befor installing the new? Since you had a different brand card, any trace of that old driver may play havoc with a new driver of another brand.

MONOLITH · 06-06-07, 10:10 PM

After these reports, Sticking with 7.4 for now. Runs smooth and looks really great.

No reason to screw with it.

walsh2509 · 06-07-07, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40

I think you mean 7.3, no? The latest cat drivers for ATI are 7.5's.

I'm useing the 7.3's with my X1650 pro, and have no graphical glitches at all. The flickering is an issue that is seen by many who own both ATI, and Nvidia. I don't think there is a definite answer to that one. There also was a seperate thread a while ago dealing with the "Flickering Textures" issue. Do a forum search, and you may be able to dig it up.

Another thought: Did you completly remove all traces of your old graphics driver befor installing the new? Since you had a different brand card, any trace of that old driver may play havoc with a new driver of another brand.

I had a look in my device manager and the driver for my x1650 is 8.380.0.0

info from DM ..

Driver Provider ... ATI Technologies Inc.
Driver Date ... 17/05/2007
Driver Version ... 8.380.0.0
Digital Signer ... Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher

06-05-07, 08:42 PM	#1
Torps Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 496 Downloads: 148 Uploads: 0	Catalyst 7.5 not recommended..my opinion After uninstalling the 7.4 version and installing 7.5 I found I am no longer able to run SH4 anywhere near 1680 X 1050. The frame rates have dropped considerably , especially facing the horizon or anything other then open water,ie my sub or anything on the surface. Tested on.... Custom Built Core 2 E6700 OC to 3GHZ Intel 975XB Express Chipset BX2 4GB DDR2 800mhz OCZ Gaming Memory ATI 1950XTX PCI-E 500GB RAID 5, Sata II 16mb (3x)HITACHI HD's 22in Benq WS Any comments or questions please do ask/tell. Good hunting. __________________ Torps Contributor PE for ROW Reflections on Water *ROW Sound Effects* R.I.P Dave Bunnel aka LeoVampire

06-06-07, 04:45 AM	#3
Stew U-582 Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 266 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 0	Well I tried updating catalyst 7.5 and I couldnt even get a picture anymore. had to boot up in safe mode and revert back to 7.4 __________________ Captain Stu from Down Under , Down Under

06-06-07, 05:51 AM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Yeah, something is wrong with 7.5. I used this on my Dads computer. Whenever I booted it said it could not find some file etc. I had to use the add/remove program to take out the CCC file. Then I reverted to 7.3 for him. Bad mojo with 7.5. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

06-06-07, 10:10 PM	#10
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	After these reports, Sticking with 7.4 for now. Runs smooth and looks really great. No reason to screw with it. __________________

06-05-07, 11:12 PM	#2
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I assume you ran at this same rez previously and you didn't change any of the game features. Since you know the frames dropped, what was the previous average compared to the current average at the same rez and game options? I would never attempt that rez myself. I would need a magnifying glass just to know what game I was playing. -Pv-

06-06-07, 05:44 AM	#4
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Still useing Cat7.3's for my X1650pro! Besides the problem of no sun glare, there are no problems.

06-06-07, 09:15 AM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Phew once again Im glad I waited. :p

06-06-07, 08:22 PM	#8
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Don't laugh! But I bought a GF6600GT 6/7months ago and it blew up well it didn't work any more ... But I got decent FR and the sim looked good (well as good as it gets with a 6600GT, which was not too bad). Anyhoo, I sent it back and got a call nearly 28days later saying that they had no GT6600GTs left and they were shipping me a replacement ( a better card? I couldn't tell you one way or another! may be one of you can) any way I get a x1650 512mb card delivered and I install it. The disc that came with it had the drivers, but I went to the ATI site and followed the d/ld Q's like HomeXP/x1650 and it took me to the latest drivers for the card I guess. When I seen the posts about drivers and the 7.? whatever I had a look in Hardware and the driver I d/ld was 8.3 (good /bad??? anyone?) and when I was messing about in Sub school = torp school after I sunk the ship I went after the fishing boats with my deckgun. I noticed that even within 500mts of them the top of the sail was missing it ws flickering in and out and it looked like the sail had been cut straight across near the top... Never had that with the GF6600GT is it the x1650 (it is a better card ? ) and if so , is it the driver I d/ld (8.3) that is causing the flickering on the top of the sail?

06-06-07, 09:06 PM	#9
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	I think you mean 7.3, no? The latest cat drivers for ATI are 7.5's. I'm useing the 7.3's with my X1650 pro, and have no graphical glitches at all. The flickering is an issue that is seen by many who own both ATI, and Nvidia. I don't think there is a definite answer to that one. There also was a seperate thread a while ago dealing with the "Flickering Textures" issue. Do a forum search, and you may be able to dig it up. Another thought: Did you completly remove all traces of your old graphics driver befor installing the new? Since you had a different brand card, any trace of that old driver may play havoc with a new driver of another brand.